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  1. #91
    Player
    babizokahh's Avatar
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    Aug 2016
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    Character
    Rowan Bloodborn
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    "Wait for 4.1", fine, we don't really have a choice, and i get that actual mechanics change won't come mid-patch, but current raid tier is pretty much dead as summoner, numbers on fflogs prove that (which i know SE doesn't care, and therefore, don't give a flying f* to summoners now). SMN can't do mistakes or the punishment is absurd compared to any other dps, and on raid progression there will be mistakes, either by the smn or other party members. I'm not joking, even in PF i was told people are LOCKING summoner OUT of runs for savage. It's getting ridiculous.
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  2. #92
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    NewSinz's Avatar
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    Dec 2013
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    54
    Character
    Gerky Mayvian
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    who cares about sustain? Give back contagion for petes sake. Sustain is only important for solo really AoE heals seem to do a good job of keeping pets up.
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  3. #93
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    Officer_Cat's Avatar
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    Mar 2017
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    28
    Character
    Officer Cat
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Yeah its true got kicked many times.. its kinda annoying

    I also got messages like: "change to BLM or leave and blacklist"
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  4. #94
    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
    Location
    Idylshire
    Posts
    448
    Character
    Miles Maelstrom
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Officer_Cat View Post
    Yeah its true got kicked many times.. its kinda annoying

    I also got messages like: "change to BLM or leave and blacklist"
    Wow harsh that the extra mile for a dick to black list over what job you play.
    (0)

  5. #95
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    Waliel's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Character
    Waliel Hla
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    I may be wrong, but I doubt Fleche + Contre Sixte to reprensent 20% of the RDM overall DPS.
    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightTundra View Post
    You are forgetting Displacement and Corps. These make up roughly 4~5% of your damage whilst Contre and Fleche are 14~15% combined. You're sitting at 18~20% of your DPS being Physical - Piercing damage.
    I checked a couple of random of Alte Roite and Catastrophe logs and physical skills did roughly 18% of total on average.
    (0)

    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

  6. #96
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    prophecy4seen's Avatar
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    Mar 2014
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    Uldah
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    47
    Character
    Little Box
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NewSinz View Post
    Give back contagion for petes sake.
    lul what? We have 30seconds duration on dots and a resetting tri disaster. Why would we still need the old contagion?

    I said this in another thread, the old contagion allowed us to spam more ruins before needing to recast dots..

    Now we spam more ruins yet there are complaints.

    I'm happy with the change, its not enough, but i will take what i can get. SMN 4lyf
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  7. #97
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Apr 2015
    Location
    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    1,710
    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by prophecy4seen View Post
    I'm happy with the change, its not enough, but i will take what i can get. SMN 4lyf
    "When my dragons are grown, we will take back what was stolen from me and destroy those who wronged me! We will lay waste to armies and burn cities to the ground!"
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  8. #98
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Apr 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Claire Pendragon
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MelvinK View Post
    Enchanted version of the melee combo are magical.
    Im starting to think the normal WS is magical, or at least if it is physical, it still uses magic attack stats, since y auto attack at Lv70 takes 6 hits to kill a Lv5 mob, but it takes a non enchanted Riposte to kill a Lv43 in a single hit.
    granted its pretty easy to find out, i was was willing to unfilter a bunch of info in my chat log.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  9. #99
    Player
    Remedi's Avatar
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    Feb 2014
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    Character
    Remedi Maxwell
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    the non enchanted are physical and piercing dmg they do scale off INT probably however, personally tested it after learning of the nature of fleche, contre sixt, copse and disengage
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  10. #100
    Community Rep Luxpheras's Avatar
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    May 2016
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    Hello adventurers,

    Thank you all for continuing to provide feedback on summoner and the adjustments made in Patch 4.06.

    As some players have pointed out, Yoshida made a comment regarding summoner adjustments on a recent community broadcast before the release of Patch 4.06:

    "I believe we need to make several changes to summoner's system, but it will take some time and it will not be ready by Patch 4.06. Therefore, we'll make adjustments that can be done through data first."

    We understand that you may be anxious for more information, but for now we wanted to share an acknowledgement that the team is aware of your concerns and is looking into how to proceed.

    Thank you again for continuing to provide extensive feedback and suggestions. Please continue to share your thoughts with us, and we'll be sure to pass it along to the dev. team!
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    Chenin "Luxpheras" Matthews - Community Team

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