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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    because it was not meant for you to spam that, the idea for it is to be used during DWT as a filler, the mana dump gameplay was derived by the fact that you could pump excess of MP into dmg and it should remain at that imho
    So... what exactly are you supposed to do between DWTs? Stand there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    So... what exactly are you supposed to do between DWTs? Stand there?
    Use Ruin III, but pay attention to your mana, obviously. If it starts to get too low switch to Ruin I or II. I completely agree when you compare other classes' potency, it doesn't make sense for ruin III to be so limited, but it's not a complete gimp if you know what you're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm View Post
    Use Ruin III, but pay attention to your mana, obviously. If it starts to get too low switch to Ruin I or II. I completely agree when you compare other classes' potency, it doesn't make sense for ruin III to be so limited, but it's not a complete gimp if you know what you're doing.
    I know that lol. I was more poking fun at the fact they said you're not really supposed to use it outside of DWT, unless I'm reading it wrong (and looking back at it, I think I did - English pls). The potency to cost ratio for Ruin III is wonky, at least they could increase the potency if they want to keep the mana cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    I know that lol. I was more poking fun at the fact they said you're not really supposed to use it outside of DWT, unless I'm reading it wrong (and looking back at it, I think I did - English pls). The potency to cost ratio for Ruin III is wonky, at least they could increase the potency if they want to keep the mana cost.
    Oh haha. Sorry for misunderstanding. ^^; It could be they're just newer to the Job? Most starter rotations advise people about using Ruin III in trance, etc etc. (that's the rotation I ended up finding when I had turned 60). The spam outside of it I had to learn from fellow SMNs in the game because all the darn rotations were outdated. D:

    Right?? I wish at the very least they'd put Ruin III back up to 200 potency and then buff Ruin IV to 300 or even 250. I died in my 1st run of O4 and my DPS tanked to something pre-60 because you can't touch Ruin III (or anything else useful) until your mana recovers and Aetherflow comes back. >_< Ideally I think potency would be fine though if they just halfed the mana cost of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    I know that lol. I was more poking fun at the fact they said you're not really supposed to use it outside of DWT, unless I'm reading it wrong (and looking back at it, I think I did - English pls). The potency to cost ratio for Ruin III is wonky, at least they could increase the potency if they want to keep the mana cost.
    Yeah they definitely said they were trying to steer people away from using Ruin III outside of DWT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    Yeah they definitely said they were trying to steer people away from using Ruin III outside of DWT.
    For fallng behind even further? What dumb logic is that? .___.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    For fallng behind even further? What dumb logic is that? .___.
    Part of their effort to make the job easier was to take the decision making away from what people should be doing once they're IN DWT; hence the inability to use Aetherflow stacks at all while in DWT.

    I can't remember exact what interview I read or heard this from, but I distinctly remember it cuz I was scratching my head the whole time lol.
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