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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    I been of mindset that bahamut should be lvl 100 ability for the summoner I fear they brought it out too soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komaku View Post
    In my honest opinion though the ruin shuffle isn't the biggest problem it is the Aertherflow issue being locked out of using it till after you have exhausted Dreadwyrm trance really slows down a summoners rotation.
    That's the change that annoyed me the most, plus that using Aetherflow when you have Aethertrail pretty much erases your Aetherflow stacks. I don't know why they did it exactly, was it because they don't want people summoning Bahamut so fast? Or do they think people can't handle managing Aetherflow and Aethertrail so they had to dumb it down?
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    Normally I play healers, but occasionally I like to just go for kill questing - and use smn (as I leveled with sch through ARR/HW).
    So got on smn and went out into the Stormblood world.

    All I can say is no wonder there are many posts on this class after 4.0. Pffft - makes you wonder how some of these changes could have passed the devs testing reviews.
    Think I'll park it, RDM looks like a lot more fun.
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    I'm curious how people would feel if pets were invincible but could not gain enmity.

    This would mean you never have to worry about your pet dying but also that titan would lose its identity as a tank and would have to be changed to fit some other purpose

    Let's be honest titan is pretty bad as a tank anyway so I'd be fine with not having a pet tank for me personally. I'd rather he had some useful buffs and maybe decent dps to compare with the other two.
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    Last edited by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi; 08-15-2017 at 09:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    I'm curious how people would feel if pets were invincible but could not gain enmity.

    This would mean you never have to worry about your pet dying but also that titan would lose its identity as a tank and would have to be changed to fit some other purpose

    Let's be honest titan is pretty bad as a tank anyway so I'd be fine with not having a pet tank for me personally. I'd rather he had some useful buffs and maybe decent dps to compare with the other two.
    Honestly find this as one of the better suggestions. Bahamut already functions like this, so why not give Titan a purpose?
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    I'm curious how people would feel if pets were invincible but could not gain enmity.

    This would mean you never have to worry about your pet dying but also that titan would lose its identity as a tank and would have to be changed to fit some other purpose

    Let's be honest titan is pretty bad as a tank anyway so I'd be fine with not having a pet tank for me personally. I'd rather he had some useful buffs and maybe decent dps to compare with the other two.
    Funny, I was toying around a similar idea concerning Titan-Egi/tank pet.
    Except instead of turning it into something else, I'd have simply removed it outright (thus putting the Titan-Egi "skin" onto your melee pet, as part of the "Egi glamour" system).
    That way there would be no need to actually have a tank pet at all, nor having Sustain back.

    (And before you point that out, yes: that would also mean re-arranging ACN's skills/teaching SCH its own "Summon Selene" command)
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 08-16-2017 at 07:30 AM. Reason: Minor edits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Funny, I was toying around a similar idea concerning Titan-Egi/tank pet.
    Except instead of turning it into something else, I'd have simply removed it outright (thus putting the Titan-Egi "skin" onto your melee pet, as part of the "Egi glamour" system).
    That way there would be no need to actually have a tank pet at all, nor having Sustain back.

    (And before you point that out, yes: that would also mean re-arranging ACN's skills/teaching SCH its own "Summon Selene" command)
    Titan as a non tank pet, could be protecting you with shields and surecast buffs. Dealing low damage, enough for beeing a no go for raiding purposes, but a good protector for soloing.
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    if SE create scale for the pets and use their corresponding jobs and set X% of what the job doing one could possible fix the summoner companion/pets. it also be use for future pet jobs to come
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    question Zetsumei

    would it be Dem-titan or would it be like soaker summon that soak up damage you get
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    question Zetsumei

    would it be Dem-titan or would it be like soaker summon that soak up damage you get
    The reason for making the pets invincible is so that you make sure your pet is always available and doesn't effect your rotation or dps because it died for some reason. Actually I would probably just remove their HP bar completely, same as when demi bahamut is summoned.

    Because it's invincible youd have to also remove their ability to gain enmity so you can't use them to cheese mechanics. All enmity would go to the master only.


    Titan would have to be changed to do something other than tank in this case since it would be useless without its enmity building identity. I would imagine it having skills smiliar to Ifrit for dps and maybe having skills like a tenacity boost or AoE stoneskin.
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