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    Quote Originally Posted by F_Maximillian View Post
    For what it's worth, most of the people against parsers seem to not do the only content that parsers are relevant for. Coincidence? I think not. .
    Generally speaking I'm not against parsers. I'm against the general communities belief into what they believe parsers tell them.

    It's something you see in almost every single thread that comes up. For example many people want a parser so they can measure there rotations dps and find how much potential one rotation has over another. However the tools to do that are already provided in the game. SSS and it's 4.0 equivalent. The problem is players aren't using them.

    Contrary to the communities general belief. Parsers do not work for this purpose because in a fight there's to many variables to get an accurate measure of your potential or comparison of one rotation versus another. If you want accurate results you need to eliminate all variables except that which you are testing.

    Parsers can not even be used for comparitive measures for the same reason. Far to many variables involved to get accurate results. If I went on fflogs and saw the top ninja doing 5k in a fight and my ninja only does 3.5k it doesn't tell me anything useful. Nor does it mean I should be doing 5k dps myself. I might have lower gear, less melds. No food or pots. A totally different party composition. Any number of things could account for that huge variance.

    You also see people ask for personal parses only. Which only further shows that players really don't know what a parser actually tells them... Because coming out of o1s just knowing you did 4k dps doesn't mean anything. The next run you might play exactly the same and only get 3k dps because of a different party set up. So just having that personal dps number at the end would would be useless. Why did I only get 3k this week? last week I got 4k what the hell happened??

    Parsers also don't provide any measure of that performance. Knowing you did x amount of dpsis useless if you don't know what you could have done...

    Hey you did 4k dps in that fight! What does that mean? Is that good or bad or what. Who knows..

    Where if it said
    Hey you did 4k dps in that fight you could have done 4.5k! Oh that's pretty good then.

    Or even Hey you did 4k dps that fight you could have done 8k! You suck

    Without a measure of your potential knowing what you actually did is meaningless. And parsers cannot tell you your potential because there's far to many variables concerned.

    This is why I'm currently against parsers in game because players simply don't understand what the Information a parser provides actually means or how to interpret it correctly. If and when that changes then i'll be all for adding them

    On the subject of enraged timers I'm generally not a fan. If a group of players is able to make progress all be it slow and hold together till the boss is dead that should count. However when your group is doing ok and the boss just says screw you at like 5 or 6% for example that's just disheartening and frustrating. And ultimately puts A lot of people off trying again.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 08-09-2017 at 06:29 AM.