How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

[akaneakki]

Simple solution: You find a good static on same level as you and not expecting any carry from anyone. If it's pugs and some of them can't hold the certain % of their own damage, then you kick them. Nobody here is obligated to carry anyone, much as nobody here has the right to do the raid, just because you sub doesn't mean you deserve the golden platter.

[bswpayton]

Simple solution: You .

That statement u just made is laughable, if probably the most well known streamer of this game mr happy is pugging then obviously having a static and keeping one isn't the easiest thing to do. What else would u rather people do unsync runs all day of old primal and raids all day instead? Cause nobodies running those sync, or should we just run dungeons just because , there's a 450 cap u can cap in like two days. We have no 24 man's once u clear the primals unless u like rng no reason to do those either. So yes we have about six fights to do after we cap tomes so I don't follow ur logic at all

[technole]

That statement u just made is laughable, if probably the most well known streamer of this game mr happy is pugging then obviously having a static and keeping one isn't the easiest thing to do.

In all fairness, MrHappy had a static but they broke up several weeks before Stormblood. That does happen, sometimes you just can't pick up the pieces and find another one that quickly which works with your schedule.

Still, the pug life isn't all that great. Whereas with a full static you can parse all you want with your group, be competitive with each other and what not without the fear of some retaliation anywhere.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Okay... I keep reading people responding to my comments by saying that their static has a dragoon. I meant that players would not want to play one, if parsers were in the game, because they would want to play the jobs which do the highest dps.

Of course, there will always be outliers, like me, why choose to play a job because they like it. However, my experiences with MMO sheeple show a big chunk of players only want to play number one on the parsers. In WoW, that was top spec/top build. IN FFXIV, that would translate to top job/top role picks.

Furthermore, I don't need to be in a top raider to comment on an issue which will affect all levels of play. So, please don't play the "You Must Be This Experienced To Comment" card. It's exclusionary and reflects badly on you.

I'm against parsers. I've explained why. But, I realize that the decision is up to Square Enix and all each of us can do is to offer feedback on the issue.

[Miste]

Okay... I keep reading people responding to my comments by saying that their static has a dragoon. I meant that players would not want to play one, if parsers were in the game, because they would want to play the jobs which do the highest dps.

Of course, there will always be outliers, like me, why choose to play a job because they like it. However, my experiences with MMO sheeple show a big chunk of players only want to play number one on the parsers.

Well I do apologize if I misunderstood, but this reason is also kind of strange to be honest.

You are making a lot of assumptions here about other players that you cannot possibly know....unless you interviewed everyone somehow?

You can't just generalize and throw everyone into one basket and pretend like you are part of such a small subset of players who actually plays a job because they like it. Most of the people I know on FFXIV play the job they like to play and I know quite a handful of people...so if this really was such an outlier I feel like I should have seen more people playing a job simply because its numbers were high. Either way neither of us can say one way or the other because we have no evidence beyond our own experiences.

Also parsers technically already exist (for PC users anyway)...yet I see lots of statics with DRG in them and also lots of people still playing DRG.

Finally, why does it affect you if someone else decides to play a job due to numbers? I mean...they aren't you and they made a choice for themselves. How others choose what job they will play is sort of not anyone elses business. Everyone can choose a job for whatever reasons they want to whether it be because they like how it plays, because its DPS is high, because they simply like the gear designs that job gets, or heck maybe I play RDM simply because I like to fly backwards with Displacement and no other reason whatsoever...I mean who knows?

Everyone is different and we all make our own choices however we wish. Just because not everyone might choose a job for themselves the exact same way you do doesn't mean they are just sheeple or somehow doing something wrong...they have their own opinions and they can play whatever job they want for whatever reasons they want. If high numbers is fun to them then it is fun to them...not everyone has fun the same way as everyone else.

This is why it is fine if you are against parsers, you don't think they are fun and that is your opinion no problem. My responses to you are mostly due to the assumptions and generalizations you have been making. It just doesn't explain your reasoning very well since you are making claims that you don't have any facts to back up and it just uses a large paint brush on everyone that isn't you. You have to try to think outside yourself to how others may think differently than you.

[Eli85]

A parser, while nice, is not necessary to working out a good enough rotation to tackle any content in this game. If any player needs a parser to do good DPS / HPS, the problem lies with the player.

I'm not anti-parser by any stretch (played many games and seen their value) but I don't miss the DPS linkers who thinks every problem can be solved with more DPS. Makes for a more enjoyable social experience than anything.

This whole discussion is moot, anyway. No parser is coming, ever.

[Snow_Princess]

There is no such thing of relying on a parser, it does not tell you rotations, no one is suggesting dependence on it.. it ... is.... just a tool, this makes no sense, and why he said what he did.

If you have to rely on a third party tool to clear content, you're probably not ready to tackle said content.

^ that makes no sense, that is the point of the comment. Also lets assume there is some truth to this, people can use such tools like this to learn and start to do .. whatever.. without the crutch tool. In other words, no matter how you look at this quote, it does not make sense and is wrong.

Let me put this in a different way, ,you are pretty much saying "you are not ready to do said content because you never did it before so you do not know the fight" there is specific ways you can adjust rotations to squeeze in things between phases, it is different then beating a dummy, bosses have invulnerable stages so it skews rotation theory a bit.

This goes back to the original statement, that people seem have trouble answering. If SE is going to give strict rotations and have dps checks, why are parsers not allowed on an official stance? Stawmaning like this post makes no sense and does not help answer the original statement.

[TankHunter678]

My experience with parsers being a good thing is incredibly limited to the point of being an anecdote of an anecdote. My experience with parsers being a bad thing is considerably more, especially during the brief time I was playing WoW.

Implementing parsers here in theory would help people learn DPS better. 9 times out of 10 however its going to be used for excluding others from even warm up end game content, its going to be used for belligerence and harassment of others. It would also drive the community even more towards the competitive toxic mindset that currently infested every other MMO out there with parsers.

[Holkan]

Heres the thing these people who are going to harass people over their dps or performance already do so. The only thing that will change is instead of a put down being you suck ass at this game it will be you suck ass at this game for doing low dps or (generic dps number here). I have a paladin in my static who had no idea his damage was super below what it should be because he had 0 feed back from the game its self on what he was doing wrong. I helped him with his rotation showed him a parser and he literally does triple the dps he did before. Parsers aren't going to change how people behave at all it's just a tool.

TLDR: the people who already harass people over dps run parsers now. The only difference will be that people will use a # tacked to their you suck as opposed to their just you suck insult they use now.

[Remedi]

I helped him with his rotation

This actually helped more than the parser, also tbf the dummies also serves to tell you that maybe your dps is low, If you cannot beat them with the right gear, so I don't buy the argument that the game doesn't tell you enough.

edit: also there's difference in blaming some1 with a non authorized tool and blaming some1 with an authorized tool