SMN 4.06 Changes

[NorthernLadMSP]

Two things I must say here.

1. I hate what SE has done to SMN. These changes are a joke compared to the issues people were actually having with SMN's playstyle. No one asked for a 10 potency buff to the DOTs. They tout SMN changes, and then give great changes to BRD while leaving SMN lying in the ditch.
2. I hate RDM and wish it would have never been added. That is all.

[loreleidiangelo]

Two things I must say here.

1. I hate what SE has done to SMN. These changes are a joke compared to the issues people were actually having with SMN's playstyle. No one asked for a 10 potency buff to the DOTs. They tout SMN changes, and then give great changes to BRD while leaving SMN lying in the ditch.
2. I hate RDM and wish it would have never been added. That is all.

795 RDM parses uploaded for Neo Ex...53 SMN parses. BLM is doing nice damage, but still only 116 parses uploaded to FFLogs too.

Get a clue, devs, job balance is completely borked.

[Gallus]

SE just give me sustain back instead of 10 potency to my dots?
Oh for real you guys never cease to amaze me...

I don't even agree about that 10 potency increase to SMN dots being sufficient, especially given how strong RDM is atm. It's roughly a 3% damage boost to the total damage of the summoner. Significant, but probably insufficient.

If you are going to complain however...do it right...or you will forever not be taken serious by SE.

Give me sustain back instead of a flat damage increase... jesuschrist...

[Shiroe]

emolden should buff party magic dealers too (or make blm t3 dots give a magiv vun), making a full caster comp valid

rdm is still OP (has good and constant damage + you know the rest of the utilities)

smn still has issues that need fixing..

[Brinzy]

emolden should buff party magic dealers too (or make blm t3 dots give a magiv vun), making a full caster comp valid

The BLM change would be interesting to say the least. The RDM one would be absolutely ludicrous though, as that's the only significant thing SMN has over RDM.

[Neela]

795 RDM parses uploaded for Neo Ex...53 SMN parses. BLM is doing nice damage, but still only 116 parses uploaded to FFLogs too.

Get a clue, devs, job balance is completely borked.

thats exactly the reason why every fflogs related thread is going to be deleted here in a few hours... they don't won't to see any proves by numbers. They just wanted a good start for RDM and Sam - mission accomplished... but they haven't calculated what that would mean for the other cls' now they have to come up with a kind of solution which is deeper than just pot-buffs... sadly it seems they are struggling in finding a good one for several certain cls' : /

[Shiroe]

The BLM change would be interesting to say the least. The RDM one would be absolutely ludicrous though, as that's the only significant thing SMN has over RDM.

would merit a parallel 3- caster meta, besides the usual physical meta of the last years...

it would boost both rdm and smn...,(though smn would lose its "the only magically buffing class" signature it has.., but thats not good, there should be more magical buffs.. + smn still has decotion)..

and smn would profit a tick more from the blm t3 dot magic vun than the rdm, since a few (yes, very few) rdm moves are physical...

still, smn needs some fixes besides everything

[Remedi]

There are only 3 magical dps in the game right now and:

>You don't want RDM in caster comps since it buffs physical damage, but you can still take one if you want to.
>Bards are just too usefull right now, simply having one in the group highly increases the chances of killing a boss.
>You need one melee dps for LB but: you don't want MNKs since they work better in physical damage comps, and if you wanted to have as much casters as possible in this comp(BLM, RDM and SMN) so you also don't want a DRG since they need a bard in the group to pull their full potential, so this leaves you with only NIN and SAM to choose for melee.

So... A caster comp is hard to build(you need very specific jobs), and you only have room for 2 casters(3 if you really want to give up a bard), and does not actually synergize very well. While for physical comps as long as you have a bard and don't repeat jobs pretty much anything goes.

Believe me I know that, however I would like some concrete proof of it's non viability, despite the fact I'm pretty sure you can still get on with it considering current content, we need to try things out not saying that they won't work because we imagine so, we need to stop beign sheeps

[Dirti]

Thanks for the dps buff. Now can you give me back sustain. I anxiously await the mechanic changes in 4.1. Fingers, toes and legs crossed.

[Claviusnex]

There is no reason they couldn't have addressed the MP costs of being a Ruin spammer in this patch. At a minimum they should drop the cost of Ruin II and/or III.