Steam payment HUGE price increase!

[EriShvakh]

Once it's converted to crysta, there would be no limitations. That is where the loophole lies. What you're saying is if you could continue to buy items on the Mogstation directly using Steam Wallet, simply limit those items through that method. That's why I brought up the ability to buy crysta via Steam Wallet and using that method.

Can you even buy crysta with steam wallet? Because right now I can't add crysta to my account at all. Not through incognito nor through European VPN.

Is it just the subtime price that changed for you guys? Or did mogstation optional items change too?

Everything. If it was only mogstation items I (and probably most people) would be completely ok with it.

[JunseiKei]

Can you even buy crysta with steam wallet? Because right now I can't add crysta to my account at all. Not through incognito nor through European VPN.

Then this revelation makes the situation sketchy AF. They'd not need to hike up the Steam Wallet prices to stop sales on the other site. That method alone should do it, no?

[IzumiOgata]

Then this revelation makes the situation sketchy AF. They'd not need to hike up the Steam Wallet prices to stop sales on the other site. That method alone should do it, no?

It has always been sketchy af, it's just that people that don't use the system don't know how restrictive it actually is =/

[Drakanoth]

Then this revelation makes the situation sketchy AF. They'd not need to hike up the Steam Wallet prices to stop sales on the other site. That method alone should do it, no?

You were right about gift codes, though. I can't say 100% if the codes could be redemeed for people outside South Americas but you could get gift codes buying with Steam Wallet. But as people already mentioned, there were other ways to go about this that could fix this problem. And well, yes, sketchy as it gets. Its just the timing, you know? Even if they did lower it without previously warning us, but did so before Stormblood people wouldn't be here as they are right now. Its hard not to feel backstabbed when its right after we bought the expansion.

[Miscanth]

You were right about gift codes, though. I can't say 100% if the codes could be redemeed for people outside South Americas but you could get gift codes buying with Steam Wallet. But as people already mentioned, there were other ways to go about this that could fix this problem. And well, yes, sketchy as it gets. Its just the timing, you know? Even if they did lower it without previously warning us, but did so before Stormblood people wouldn't be here as they are right now. Its hard not to feel backstabbed when its right after we bought the expansion.

Why can't they just LINK steam account to your Mogstation account (just like PSN works) and set regional prices? And make gifts not benefit from regional prices at all.

[IzumiOgata]

Why can't they just LINK steam account to your Mogstation account (just like PSN works) and set regional prices? And make gifts not benefit from regional prices at all.

They can, the question is: Why didn't they?

They already have a way to tell accounts apart, via the product key that was registered (reminder that you can't register any of the regular PC versions with the steam version), they already have an integration with the steam API, so why didn't they take the steps to cut the people abusing the system while still letting players that were using it legitimately untouched?

[Katsuragi_]

Because then Valve wouldn't get any money.

You don't know under what sort of contract is FF XIV on Steam.

[IzumiOgata]

Because then Valve wouldn't get any money.

You don't know under what sort of contract is FF XIV on Steam.

As long as you're selling things on their store valve will make money from it, they just take a cut from the sales, like with any other payment service, credit card companies charge companies to use their cards, paypal charges companies to implement their service, every single money exchange service charges their clients, be them people or companies.

[UnstablePersonality]

Can you even buy crysta with steam wallet? Because right now I can't add crysta to my account at all. Not through incognito nor through European VPN.

Everything. If it was only mogstation items I (and probably most people) would be completely ok with it.

Hopefully it's a mistake then.

[Rymm]

Hopefully it's a mistake then.

It's not. Well, at least it's not in the sense that it was done accidentally. The GM who responded earlier in this thread stated point blank that it was intentional and that's the only official word we have gotten on the subject.

I would, however, argue that it's a mistake in the sense that it was a really lousy idea on SE's part.