Steam payment HUGE price increase!

[IzumiOgata]

Once it's converted to crysta, there would be no limitations. That is where the loophole lies. What you're saying is if you could continue to buy items on the Mogstation directly using Steam Wallet, simply limit those items through that method. That's why I brought up the ability to buy crysta via Steam Wallet and using that method.

You can't buy crysta with the steam wallet tho

[JunseiKei]

You can't buy crysta with the steam wallet tho

Under normal circumstances.

A simple Google search revealed the issue of buying items through Steam Wallet can be circumvented with incognito status on a browser. You can then buy crysta, still, using the browser. The issue therein lies with the rates on Steam Wallet.

However, if you still can't purchase crysta under those conditions, this makes the sudden price change more alarming as the reason to change became far more questionable with its timing.

[EriShvakh]

Once it's converted to crysta, there would be no limitations. That is where the loophole lies. What you're saying is if you could continue to buy items on the Mogstation directly using Steam Wallet, simply limit those items through that method. That's why I brought up the ability to buy crysta via Steam Wallet and using that method.

Can you even buy crysta with steam wallet? Because right now I can't add crysta to my account at all. Not through incognito nor through European VPN.

Is it just the subtime price that changed for you guys? Or did mogstation optional items change too?

Everything. If it was only mogstation items I (and probably most people) would be completely ok with it.

[JunseiKei]

Can you even buy crysta with steam wallet? Because right now I can't add crysta to my account at all. Not through incognito nor through European VPN.

Then this revelation makes the situation sketchy AF. They'd not need to hike up the Steam Wallet prices to stop sales on the other site. That method alone should do it, no?

[IzumiOgata]

Then this revelation makes the situation sketchy AF. They'd not need to hike up the Steam Wallet prices to stop sales on the other site. That method alone should do it, no?

It has always been sketchy af, it's just that people that don't use the system don't know how restrictive it actually is =/

[Drakanoth]

Then this revelation makes the situation sketchy AF. They'd not need to hike up the Steam Wallet prices to stop sales on the other site. That method alone should do it, no?

You were right about gift codes, though. I can't say 100% if the codes could be redemeed for people outside South Americas but you could get gift codes buying with Steam Wallet. But as people already mentioned, there were other ways to go about this that could fix this problem. And well, yes, sketchy as it gets. Its just the timing, you know? Even if they did lower it without previously warning us, but did so before Stormblood people wouldn't be here as they are right now. Its hard not to feel backstabbed when its right after we bought the expansion.

[Miscanth]

You were right about gift codes, though. I can't say 100% if the codes could be redemeed for people outside South Americas but you could get gift codes buying with Steam Wallet. But as people already mentioned, there were other ways to go about this that could fix this problem. And well, yes, sketchy as it gets. Its just the timing, you know? Even if they did lower it without previously warning us, but did so before Stormblood people wouldn't be here as they are right now. Its hard not to feel backstabbed when its right after we bought the expansion.

Why can't they just LINK steam account to your Mogstation account (just like PSN works) and set regional prices? And make gifts not benefit from regional prices at all.

[eschaton]

Interesting read about the reselling. But hey you know if this would be about a big reselling problem why not make gifting region-locked like any other game-code? Or a less radical option; why not make it so that you can only gift to friends in-game? Resellers would be spotted before sunrise like that.

A friend said; imagine raising the bread price in Africa to USA levels to prevent reselling, lol? As long as SE isn’t selling gold there is no need for such weirdness there are way better options to stop reselling. (Another example would be import/export fees IRL.)

[IzumiOgata]

Why can't they just LINK steam account to your Mogstation account (just like PSN works) and set regional prices? And make gifts not benefit from regional prices at all.

They can, the question is: Why didn't they?

They already have a way to tell accounts apart, via the product key that was registered (reminder that you can't register any of the regular PC versions with the steam version), they already have an integration with the steam API, so why didn't they take the steps to cut the people abusing the system while still letting players that were using it legitimately untouched?

[Katsuragi_]

Because then Valve wouldn't get any money.

You don't know under what sort of contract is FF XIV on Steam.