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    Artaletta's Avatar
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    Alessa Rozencraft
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    And there is a silence. No announcements, no emails, only come-off from moderator.
    The best company in the world.
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    The irony in this situation is not only they destroyed their reputation in affected countries, but granted more potential and returning subscribers to FF14 competitors such as World of Warcraft. Who taught these men marketing.
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    Last edited by FedorSumkin; 07-22-2017 at 05:35 PM.

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    Player DDkiki's Avatar
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    Shria Qestir
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    Quote Originally Posted by FedorSumkin View Post
    The irony in this situation is not only they destroyed their reputation in affected countries, but granted more potential and returning subscribers to FF14 competitors such as World of Warcraft. Who taught these men marketing.
    Yes. after my sub ends i with my freinds already decided to return to WoW.
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    Violet Flower
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    Russian playerbase annihilated. I don't know if increased sub price for remaining players will cover sub losses from all players who are not able to pay anymore. If Russians are going to pay now like everybody else, they should at least have the same salaries like everybody else first.
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    Argantaelle Frilaix
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Russian playerbase annihilated. I don't know if increased sub price for remaining players will cover sub losses from all players who are not able to pay anymore.
    It seems like increased subscription price won't compensate for playerbase loss. Let's take our static for example. We agreed on continuing playing FFXIV for 2-3 month more because some of us have already payed for it in advance. After that we'll probably move to another game or maybe even stop playing MMOs for some time (it's difficult to invest lots of time in one game and be treated like garbage; some of us will need time to recover).

    Some Russian players will stay because they pay full price already. They are mostly legacy players or those who started playing before FFXIV became available in Steam. But SE won't get any additional profit from them.

    Anyways, SE profits is not my concern. They made their move, we draw a conclusion.
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    It seems that people dont understand the difference between something being fair and it being equal. Here in Germany people that have a higher income will pay a higher income tax on it and people that only earn a certain amount of money per year (around max. 8800 € per year) wont have to pay any income tax. This is fair. If everyone needs to pay the same amount of taxes in percent than this would not be fair but equal to all. But something being equal is not always the good decision.

    So this situation itself might make everyone equal but its far away from being fair.

    Also most people are angry because there was simply no communication about this. This is the main problem. Even if it was not against the ToS (through some kind of loophole) its still a bad practice. The reputation and good will of a company is really important today and things like that can destroy a reputation which is not easily reclaimed. And a bad reputation can even ruin a company.

    Like I already posted, this decision (even if I am not hit by it because I live in Germany) left me really disgusted about SE, so I will refrain from buying items from them again (Mog station, merchandise), I will not recommend this game to anyone anymore and I might not even buy any other games from SE again..dont want to finance a company that makes so many greedy decisions and that even after it is known, still chose to ignore it..

    The player base in these two countries might be small but they are still paying customers..this and the horrible handling of the EU campaigns show that the company itself does not respect their customer, only their money.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 07-22-2017 at 08:14 PM.

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    Texa Yuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    It seems that people dont understand the difference between something being fair and it being equal.
    Here's a simple visual explanation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    It seems that people dont understand the difference between something being fair and it being equal. Here in Germany people that have a higher income will pay a higher income tax on it and people that only earn a certain amount of money per year (around max. 8800 € per year) wont have to pay any income tax. This is fair. If everyone needs to pay the same amount of taxes in percent than this would not be fair but equal to all. But something being equal is not always the good decision.
    So this situation itself might make everyone equal but its far away from being fair.
    You know what would be fair?
    1)Square Enix apologizes for not informing customers of upcoming changes on the official site.
    2)Square Enix announces that during month after that declaration users that are affected by that change are free to refund at least the Stormblood DLC.
    (7)

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    Player DDkiki's Avatar
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    So a question, how do you try to refund SB? Steam not allow it cuz i played "obviously" more then 2 hours and declined my reason, or its done by MogStation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post


    Use the reasoning of explaining how SE has made the game unplayable due to the price increases exactly one month after the release of SB with no official warning, used as a deceitful method to obtain money for the product without having to provide the continued service.
    i wrote that SE broke ToS, tripled sub time, scummed me and im unable to play cuz of it. Still got declined with typical "you played more then 2 hours"
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    Last edited by DDkiki; 07-22-2017 at 08:24 PM.

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    Reyn Dyen
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    Fisher Lv 80
    As a Russian player I can't understand why SQEX decide to drop off the regional pricing policy. Moreover, it was done silently, without any kind of notification. There are a lot of players, who bought SB knowing that monthly fee is acceptable and yet they were scammed. Why is there such a bad attitude towards us?
    Pricing increase is very huge: now monthly fee is about 900 RUB. It's an outrageous price for a subscription. Median salary in Russia is about 23000 RUB (335 EUR) per month and in most cities it decreases by almost two times. But it does not mean that the market in Russia is poor. Russian players are quite similar to Chinese players and prepared to spend money on games. But not that much.
    Will there be new Russian players after this move? Most likely no.
    Has SQEX ruined its reputation by this move? Undoubtedly, yes.
    I can pay a new monthly fee without problems, but I won't do so, because I simply do not want to pay for a game, whose publisher allows itself such terrible deeds without a twinge of conscience.
    (8)
    Last edited by MrUsername; 07-23-2017 at 02:54 AM.

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