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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    Again, theory. On paper. You have yet to address the primary issue I brought up, which is that the entirety of this math is based around a constantly rolling GCD that has no downtime against a giant wall of HP with no mechanics that just sits there and let's you beat on it. The ultimate Target Dummy in other words.

    But more than that, I feel like we're talking about two different things, as you reference TBN then talk about how it will always be a personal DPS loss in Grit, then go on to say that being in Grit will change the matter considering the potency is different? That's quite confusing.
    Sorry, not trying to be rude, but you're not reading correctly. It's always a personal DPS loss when not in Grit, and I'm sorry but don't blame the math. It's not just true on paper. I'm sorry you're not comprehending it, but that's just how it is. I've done my best by both explaining and providing a clear mathematical proof.

    it's a clear gain if it breaks at least once out of every two uses, since a single DA is 140 potency and a single BS is 400 potency, and one TBN breaking out of every two is a net gain of 200 potency.

    Is that incorrect?
    That is completely incorrect. I don't really know what to tell you other than that you need to recognize that MP is directly convertible into potency since (outside of Grit and on all single targets) every action that uses Dark Arts provides the same 140 potency. There are only two things you can spend MP on in this case, DPS and Defense/Utility(Dark Mind/Blackest Night), therefore, to determine the value of one, we set it equal to the other and evaluate from there.

    You're also completely ignoring what you're denying is true, which is that Bloodspiller interrupts your normal rotation by being on GCD. This has a cost, so finding the average GCD potency tells you this cost when combined with the MP->potency conversion and recognizing that you're losing out on Bloodgauge as well. Now you COULD look at an individual fight in order to determine EXACTLY which GCDs were lost by using Bloodspiller, BUT in a large enough sample it will eventually be exactly equal to the average and it will not change any more, no matter how much you increase the sample size. We're interested in what happens if we were to use an infinitely large sample size because as we increase our size of evaluation more and more, we get closer and closer to the exact values, plain and simple.

    It makes no sense to say, "well I crit on that Bloodspiller, therefore it was a DPS increase to use TBN". That kind of belief belongs outside of job balancing and falls in the realm of make believe. (Or Chaos theory perhaps, but we won't get into that.)
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