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    Yorumi's Avatar
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by SnugglesD View Post
    1. That's not either jobs full kit.

    2. Be pedantic all you want, but no one is saying ast is hurting for heals. I'm saying sch isn't hurting as much as people are crying about and the balance between shields has way more to consider than just comparing non-crit potential of just 2 abilities in a vacuum.
    No I'm not being pedantic in the least, I just went through the heals of each class and showed how other than lustrate sch comes up short in every single comparison you can imagine. I am sick of all the AST on this board pretending like there is no legitimate complaint against a massively OP class that is taking identities of the other healers with it. A class that no one would ever dream of dropping from a raid party, and the other two healers only get spots out of pity from devs who had to force them into parties. It's as though people are required to put on a blindfold to play AST. If anyone is not looking at the full picture it is the AST.

    It is YOU who needs to look at the full picture. You're right that's not the AST's full kit, I didn't include the freaken card buffs. AST wins without their card buffs, and they have those just to add insult to injury on the other healers.
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    Paowee Otter
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    No I'm not being pedantic in the least, I just went through the heals of each class and showed how other than lustrate sch comes up short in every single comparison you can imagine. I am sick of all the AST on this board pretending...


    . A class that no one would ever dream of dropping from a aid party rs.
    one of the top world prog raiding FC doesn't even use an AST for neo exdeath.

    and they have a MCH and was able to get past the INTENSE first phase DPS check.

    what are you talking about?
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by paoweeotter View Post
    one of the top world prog raiding FC doesn't even use an AST for neo exdeath.

    and they have a MCH and was able to get past the INTENSE first phase DPS check.

    what are you talking about?
    One of the best raiding teams switched Scholar out with Astro as well. Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. What world first prog use does not reflect in any shape or form the state of the healers in a detailed sense. What does it even mean that MCH in a composition allowed it to get past an intense DPS check? Does it somehow change that BRD still does more damage and more utility? Like Jesus Christ, don't you people THINK before you argue?
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    One of the best raiding teams switched Scholar out with Astro as well. Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. What world first prog use does not reflect in any shape or form the state of the healers in a detailed sense. What does it even mean that MCH in a composition allowed it to get past an intense DPS check? Does it somehow change that BRD still does more damage and more utility? Like Jesus Christ, don't you people THINK before you argue?
    It says that three of the top groups in the world are comfortable entering the world first race with all 3 possible healer combinations, which implies that there really isn't such a huge gap between them anymore. Each serves a different purpose.

    And while BRD currently has higher overall DPS than MCH, MCH does burst higher, between Wildfire and the overheat mechanic, which is usually what you want for mechanics that are a DPS check.
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