Lazy Healers In Parties of Eight

[oph]

Blame SE for making content so healer friendly, at the moment there is no need for 2 healers to pump 100% focus healing in any fight, for that reason you'll have SCH and AST (nocturnal) probably spending more time doing dps and pre-shielding the group and the tank on busters since the job is less reactive.

[ErryK]

This wasn't just random. This was the third time in a week. How about you ask questions instead of assuming what you think you know.

Third time or seventh time, why did it need its own thread when we have the DF thread to contain all that senseless whining?

[vio_p]

I'd rather have a lazy healer who just tops off health bars, than the "nothing but DPS" "healer"

certain content doesnt need a healer to play in full heal unless at key points during the run.

These same players will never allow your AoE HoTs to be useful either, because they have their OCD triggered when people aren't at 100% all the time and consequently spam medica on people at 90% to nullify your HoTs.

Is it OCD to keep people at high health if you dont remember every aspect of all dungeons cos you didnt pull a no lifer to play them to death?
I tend to play similar to that but I hate aoe spam cos it makes the healer look like she or he is panicing so i dont tend to use it as much.

Also, I still have PTSD with a SCH Co-healer who did nothing, literal nothing in Susano EX.
Also another Noct AST co-heal never using her shields in same trial.

thats where kicking comes into play.

[Mavrias]

You're absolutely right! Surely nothing will go wrong when i run myself out of MP spam casting Broil!

I come from a healing background where if i wanted my MP to last the whole fight, I needed to stop casting altogether and work with my co-healers so that we could alternate taking breaks to allow for natural regen.

You have mp refreshing abilities and your party usually also has ways to help you (Refresh/ Manashift). standing around doing nothing is horribly inefficient.

[akaneakki]

I'd rather have a lazy healer who just tops off health bars, than the "nothing but DPS" "healer" which has become the norm nowadays.

I've died more from those healers than dps healers actually

[Roegan]

Those kind of heal-only healers tend to be the worst, they are not confident with the job, content, damage script, or what not.

Even in easy stuff, they don't even realize Swiftcast+Medica II or Lightspeed is actually a thing, so they are late while the other healer has it up already. Nope they just sit on these good cooldowns just like the bad tanks do too. Pushing buttons is hard, but also pushing one more button to make the job even more simple is even harder.

Well they aren't going to get more confident (and better as players) with people like you and this thread moaning about them. Especially in the current climate of "to dps or not dps".
Seems to me if you DPS in down time you get moaned about.
If you don't dps, but there is downtime so you therefore do nothing much, you get moaned about.

Can't win.

[Beatific]

I find it amazing that everyone who doesn't heal decides how a healer should play. Look on these forums - there aren't posts about lazy dps or lazy tanks, but every day there's a new post about how healers should play. This is how you spend your time? Posting about how you don't like the way a particular person played? Seriously, find something constructive to do. Level a healer maybe and play it the way you have decided it should be played.

[ilea]

I don't mind "relaxed" healers if they're competent, or in content where two healers aren't really needed.

When I know the other healer or can tell they're healing smart, a lack of heals isn't a big deal, since I know they'll be ready for the room-wide AoE. DPSing becomes much easier as well.

But that's rarely the case. It feels like the PUG healers I get rarely heal (e.g. Noct sect ASTs who don't shield) or heal too much. You end up having to overcompensate since they don't prepare for tankbusters, or run their MP dry spamming Medica II.

I've actually been pleasantly surprised by DPS party members in SB. RDMs are always on top of Raises, BLMs will Mana Shift me, and BRDs offer Refresh. Even a single RDM offers more utility than a lazy healer.

[Tint]

I find it amazing that everyone who doesn't heal decides how a healer should play. Look on these forums - there aren't posts about lazy dps or lazy tanks, but every day there's a new post about how healers should play.

this is because tanks and DDs don't stop moving inbetween skills, so nobody can see how lazy their rotation is (1-2-3 repeat). and it's forbidden to blame DDs for bad dps - but it's okay to blame the healer for bad dps, at least it seems so since NO FORUM MODS OR GAME MASTERS OR ANYBODY ELSE OF THE TEAM BEHIND FFXIV IS DOING ANYTHING AGAINST IT AND THIS IS GOING ON FOR YEARS NOW! sorry, but that wanted out xD

i just don't understand why it is okay to blame healers for "bad play" in such a huge dimension on the official board. this started small, but over the years this grew to a massive witch hunt and i think it's time for the mods to step up and stop to allow this harassing manner towards healers altogether.

[KalinOrthos]

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Agreed. Repeat that sentiment for the vitriol against tanks who don't meld the absolute highest DPS materia and who don't use strength accessories. This level of mindboggling anger and elitism needs to recede back to where it belongs.

You know, reddit.