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  1. #21
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I apply the same mentality I follow with casters as I do with healer by following the ABCs. Always be casting.
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  2. #22
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    I apply the same mentality I follow with casters as I do with healer by following the ABCs. Always be casting.
    You're absolutely right! Surely nothing will go wrong when i run myself out of MP spam casting Broil!

    I come from a healing background where if i wanted my MP to last the whole fight, I needed to stop casting altogether and work with my co-healers so that we could alternate taking breaks to allow for natural regen. Yay the old mp/5 rule.
    So no, I will not needlessly blow all my MP casting spells on every GCD, I will throw DPS when i have the time, spare MP and party status is acceptable.

    I'm a Healer, Not a Black Mage. You do your job, And ill do my job.
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  3. #23
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    You're absolutely right! Surely nothing will go wrong when i run myself out of MP spam casting Broil!

    I come from a healing background where if i wanted my MP to last the whole fight, I needed to stop casting altogether and work with my co-healers so that we could alternate taking breaks to allow for natural regen. Yay the old mp/5 rule.
    So no, I will not needlessly blow all my MP casting spells on every GCD, I will throw DPS when i have the time, spare MP and party status is acceptable.

    I'm a Healer, Not a Black Mage. You do your job, And ill do my job.
    You're not gonna run out of MP doing damage as SCH unless people are dying left and right and needing res.
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  4. #24
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    You're absolutely right! Surely nothing will go wrong when i run myself out of MP spam casting Broil!

    I come from a healing background where if i wanted my MP to last the whole fight, I needed to stop casting altogether and work with my co-healers so that we could alternate taking breaks to allow for natural regen. Yay the old mp/5 rule.
    So no, I will not needlessly blow all my MP casting spells on every GCD, I will throw DPS when i have the time, spare MP and party status is acceptable.

    I'm a Healer, Not a Black Mage. You do your job, And ill do my job.
    If you're running out of MP when not raising a bunch then something is wrong.
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  5. #25
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    Yui Oshima
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    Mateus
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
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    Yeah I identify with that sig

    I'm a now an official Samurai main. I'm tired of SE not being able to balance healing jobs. I'm tired of the crap that sig highlights. I've gotten crap for doing DPS and I've gotten crap for being caref

    I've had it.
    (2)
    Last edited by ToasterMan; 07-17-2017 at 01:03 PM.

  6. #26
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    I'd rather have a lazy healer who just tops off health bars, than the "nothing but DPS" "healer" which has become the norm nowadays.
    I'd rather a healer who can do both. A balance of DPS and healing.
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  7. #27
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I think most of you guys are missing the point of the thread. The OP is talking about Healers that are literally just standing around doing absolutely nothing leaving the other healer to fend for themselves. Think of it like the PvP problem we had with people just AFKing, but apply it to PvE content instead. Honestly, I have seen this behaviour lately especially in the final Stormblood trial and the new Normal mode Raid tier (there were points where the other healer would intentionally jump off the platform). I wonder why.
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  8. #28
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    You're absolutely right! Surely nothing will go wrong when i run myself out of MP spam casting Broil!

    ...
    So no, I will not needlessly blow all my MP casting spells on every GCD, I will throw DPS when i have the time, spare MP and party status is acceptable.

    I'm a Healer, Not a Black Mage. You do your job, And ill do my job.
    Up until 4.0 SCH had by far the best sustained damage of any healer. I've heard some MP horror stories since then but even if they're all true FFXIV was definitely designed with Always Be Casting in mind. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to stand there in a fight for mana to regen as a healer since I figured out how the basics work.

    Basically you always have the MP to do damage unless you're in an awful group or some real lag haplens and people die. Saying otherwise is best case uninformed and worst case just plain lying.
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  9. #29
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gun-Cat View Post
    I am actually suggesting to my co-healer they can go and concentrate on damage most of the time. That way the encounter is done quicker and it is more fun for me because healing might become a little bit challenging.
    Why not just solo heal and bring 5 dps instead of crappy healer damage?
    (1)
    Oooh, shiney...

  10. #30
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    Why not just solo heal and bring 5 dps instead of crappy healer damage?
    #1 Reason why sch wins in prog but loses its place in farm. Whm or ast can do it alone.
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