How Would Viera Fit In XIVs lore?

[RichardButte]

Godbert already suplexed all the Viera to death so he could sell their ears in the Manderville Gold Saucer.

But seriously, can we have a race that's something other than just "Human + ears/tail/horns of a (insert animal here)."?

Out of the dozens of races found in Final Fantasy games over the decades, there must be a race that's more unique and visually distinct than that.

Plus, you can already stick rabbit ears on your (female) character. Do we really need an entire RACE of them thrown in as well...? :\

I'd rather see playable Lupin because they'd be something wildly different. Also, they're the only beast tribe that hasn't summoned a primal yet (which actually places them ahead of Ala Mhigans :P ).

[Shurrikhan]

Stop arguing about whether Viera should be added or not in my thread. This is not for you. This is for ideas concerning how they'd fit in. It is supposed to be constructive ideas ONLY.

I think the fear is that the more ammunition you leave a development path with, even from a community as unheard or unutilized as ours, the more likely it becomes. That, and simply the effort seems such a waste to those who dislike the development path that they figure discouraging the efforts amount to one's own good.

I can't say I don't understand the feeling, but you already have my constructive post on page 3.

[LunarEmerald]

The entire argument of "no it's stupid. I don't like it, so we shouldn't have it" is so childish. More content and more races is never a bad thing. The more variety and character customization options we have, the better, regardless of your bias against certain things. Viera is too popular to ignore forever.

As for the topic itself, it doesn't really matter. XIV can shoehorn anything they want into its lore. This game is pure fanservice and anything can be made to fit into the world. But I think when they add "Viera", they'll make a race that's exactly the same but called something differently. They could tweak it to fit their lore needs under a different name.

[DreadRabbit]

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They said "you have bunny ears in the gold saucer. Go put them on. Boom, Viera." They assumed people only want Viera for their looks. Yet proudly display they play Miqo'te both in their profile and sig. I don't know why they specifically chose Miqo'te, but I bet they wouldn't be happy if Miqo'te were suddenly ripped away and were told the same thing, but with cat ears. Because they might have picked Miqo'te for reasons other than their appearance, like you did. So just putting on cat ears wouldn't replace the race as a whole. In other words: they probably get would get annoyed if people said "just go put on cat ears. Boom, Miqo'te," because the race is more than cat ears. Yet they (and some others) brazenly say "go put on bunny ears and you're a Viera."

That's why I called them a hypocrite. You're free to disagree with me and think I took it too far. I'm not entirely sure why you're arguing with me as we agree the race is more than its looks, but I'll leave it at that.

[Greedalox]

More content and more races is never a bad thing.

Not necessarily. It depends on how closely to your heart you hold the old saying of "Quality over quantity". If people feel like content and races aren't of the quality they deem suitable for their own standards then that has less to do with "being childish" and more along the lines of consumerism. This is all under the assumption that resource allocation on SE's part is heavily limited (Which we all know it is)- meaning that when the only stuff being released is stuff that isn't up to snuff in someones opinion, I feel like it's a perfectly valid reason to complain without the "childish" card coming out.

[LunarEmerald]

Not necessarily. It depends on how closely to your heart you hold the old saying of "Quality over quantity". If people feel like content and races aren't of the quality they deem suitable for their own standards then that has less to do with "being childish" and more along the lines of consumerism. This is all under the assumption that resource allocation on SE's part is heavily limited (Which we all know it is)- meaning that when the only stuff being released is stuff that isn't up to snuff in someones opinion, I feel like it's a perfectly valid reason to complain without the "childish" card coming out.

"I don't like bunny girls" isn't a valid reason.

[Shurrikhan]

Because the race is more than cat ears.

Hasn't one of the consistently stated concerns been that many don't trust a race not originally settled into the gameworld, and therefore allotted for in world-lore across all content, to be "more than just cat ears"?

This issue plagues any later-added race, but SE really kicked player trust in the gut with Au'ra, when the only excuse for the race was a single Ruby Sea native leading an otherwise entirely Hyuran group of Domans to refuge in Eorzea. Not to mention the difference between the concept art and the actual player models, and the yet continued clipping issues with additional racial features (as with tails, horns).

[Greedalox]

"I don't like bunny girls" isn't a valid reason.

It lines up with what I said pretty well lol. They don't like bunny girls, limited resources are going towards bunny girls.

Plus when we get down to the nitty gritty of it- "I like bunny girls" is just as valid/invalid as "I don't like bunny girls".

[SuzakuCMX]

Also, they're the only beast tribe that hasn't summoned a primal yet (which actually places them ahead of Ala Mhigans :P ).

Namazu, Qiqirn, the Kojin technically aren't the ones that summoned Susano....

Also Viera are a lot more than just bunny ears on a hyur.

"Lupin are just hyur with a dog head and tail...."

[Altena]

I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player. Never. Let's add cat ears to the Gold Saucer and delete Miqo'tes from the game entirely. We have head gear with horns, so no need for Au Ra. Forget their unique emotes, lore, and just overall aesthetic. People only care about 'dem ears, so just get rid of them and let us all be Hyur that wears specific ear gear. Same with Elezens given the recent thread: delete Elezens and just give Hyurs and Roes ear extension glamour.

Point is that we already have a number of animal-humanoid races.
I would rather they focused their time and energy on expanding the customization of the races we already have, rather than just getting another animal-humanoid race.
Currently the face options for all races are rather limited, with only one or two options that don't look excessively derpy.

I am all for new races, but I would rather see half breeds of the races we already have.
There are only so many animal-humanoid races you can add before the game starts to feel like a zoo.