How Would Viera Fit In XIVs lore?

[DreadRabbit]

They added bunny ears to the gold saucer for a reason.

If you want to be a bunny girl so much, just wear the ears.

I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player. Never. Let's add cat ears to the Gold Saucer and delete Miqo'tes from the game entirely. We have head gear with horns, so no need for Au Ra. Forget their unique emotes, lore, and just overall aesthetic. People only care about 'dem ears, so just get rid of them and let us all be Hyur that wears specific ear gear. Same with Elezens given the recent thread: delete Elezens and just give Hyurs and Roes ear extension glamour.

I apologize for the sarcasm, but this really is the worst argument against any new race. And coming from a player of a cat girl or lizard girl, it just screams hypocrite.

Anyway, on topic: I admit I'm not very familiar with Viera (haven't really played the games with them in there). Given all the images I've seen, I definitely feel like their builds (if they went with Fran) would definitely lean towards a more warrior race. Perhaps from a region in the mountains as their legs would be ideal for traversing the heights and crevices. Story wise though what if they actually sympathized with the Empire? Like perhaps their tribes were actually nearing extinction and so the Empire offered protection and help in exchange for something? So like when we meet the first tribe they're actually quite hostile, but there's a few key NPCs that would help you or help you earn their trust. For those that want the cute Viera, you could have the more warrior clan be the taller, elegant version while the smaller ones are the domesticated citizens that went to live within the Empire itself.

Or it could be possible that one clan of Viera (tall warriors) despises the Empire for splitting their already scarce race apart and considers the other clan traitors for willingly assimilating and throwing away their heritage. While the smaller/cute clan that's from the empire would look to the warrior clan as dumb savages that are doomed to die.

That said, I haven't finished HW yet, so I'm going off an incomplete understanding of lore (so I apologize if this clashes with what we have).

[savageink]

I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player.

That's because you assume everybody who plays one of them chose them because of ears or horns instead of in spite of them. Personally I chose the Miq because of body type and facial structure. I didn't pay alot of attention to the lore or ears. I actually kind of cringe when he does that surprise paws motion in cut scenes. But ignoring the ears I like the character's appearance.

[DreadRabbit]

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No I'm not? The people assuming players who want Viera should just wear bunny ears are the people who assume we pick our races just because of the ears and horns. I know there's many possible reasons behind picking your race: that's why I switched from Miqo'te to Au Ra when they released despite people claiming they're both "waifu races" and we didn't need the iteration we got. Au Ra look and feel completely different from Miqo'te, at least to me (IMO they're much closer to Elezen to be honest, as it seems they were going more for an elegant vibe, but with a shorter race. At least for the girls). So having the choice mattered. That's what I don't understand when people just say "wear bunny ears." Same with people shutting down the want for bestial races by saying things like "Roes look beastly enough, play them instead."

[savageink]

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Then you shouldn't call them a hypocrite if you don't know what their reasons are.

[DreadRabbit]

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They said "you have bunny ears in the gold saucer. Go put them on. Boom, Viera." They assumed people only want Viera for their looks. Yet proudly display they play Miqo'te both in their profile and sig. I don't know why they specifically chose Miqo'te, but I bet they wouldn't be happy if Miqo'te were suddenly ripped away and were told the same thing, but with cat ears. Because they might have picked Miqo'te for reasons other than their appearance, like you did. So just putting on cat ears wouldn't replace the race as a whole. In other words: they probably get would get annoyed if people said "just go put on cat ears. Boom, Miqo'te," because the race is more than cat ears. Yet they (and some others) brazenly say "go put on bunny ears and you're a Viera."

That's why I called them a hypocrite. You're free to disagree with me and think I took it too far. I'm not entirely sure why you're arguing with me as we agree the race is more than its looks, but I'll leave it at that.

[Shurrikhan]

Because the race is more than cat ears.

Hasn't one of the consistently stated concerns been that many don't trust a race not originally settled into the gameworld, and therefore allotted for in world-lore across all content, to be "more than just cat ears"?

This issue plagues any later-added race, but SE really kicked player trust in the gut with Au'ra, when the only excuse for the race was a single Ruby Sea native leading an otherwise entirely Hyuran group of Domans to refuge in Eorzea. Not to mention the difference between the concept art and the actual player models, and the yet continued clipping issues with additional racial features (as with tails, horns).

[Altena]

I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player. Never. Let's add cat ears to the Gold Saucer and delete Miqo'tes from the game entirely. We have head gear with horns, so no need for Au Ra. Forget their unique emotes, lore, and just overall aesthetic. People only care about 'dem ears, so just get rid of them and let us all be Hyur that wears specific ear gear. Same with Elezens given the recent thread: delete Elezens and just give Hyurs and Roes ear extension glamour.

Point is that we already have a number of animal-humanoid races.
I would rather they focused their time and energy on expanding the customization of the races we already have, rather than just getting another animal-humanoid race.
Currently the face options for all races are rather limited, with only one or two options that don't look excessively derpy.

I am all for new races, but I would rather see half breeds of the races we already have.
There are only so many animal-humanoid races you can add before the game starts to feel like a zoo.