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    DreadRabbit's Avatar
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    Evy Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    They added bunny ears to the gold saucer for a reason.

    If you want to be a bunny girl so much, just wear the ears.
    I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player. Never. Let's add cat ears to the Gold Saucer and delete Miqo'tes from the game entirely. We have head gear with horns, so no need for Au Ra. Forget their unique emotes, lore, and just overall aesthetic. People only care about 'dem ears, so just get rid of them and let us all be Hyur that wears specific ear gear. Same with Elezens given the recent thread: delete Elezens and just give Hyurs and Roes ear extension glamour.

    I apologize for the sarcasm, but this really is the worst argument against any new race. And coming from a player of a cat girl or lizard girl, it just screams hypocrite.

    Anyway, on topic: I admit I'm not very familiar with Viera (haven't really played the games with them in there). Given all the images I've seen, I definitely feel like their builds (if they went with Fran) would definitely lean towards a more warrior race. Perhaps from a region in the mountains as their legs would be ideal for traversing the heights and crevices. Story wise though what if they actually sympathized with the Empire? Like perhaps their tribes were actually nearing extinction and so the Empire offered protection and help in exchange for something? So like when we meet the first tribe they're actually quite hostile, but there's a few key NPCs that would help you or help you earn their trust. For those that want the cute Viera, you could have the more warrior clan be the taller, elegant version while the smaller ones are the domesticated citizens that went to live within the Empire itself.

    Or it could be possible that one clan of Viera (tall warriors) despises the Empire for splitting their already scarce race apart and considers the other clan traitors for willingly assimilating and throwing away their heritage. While the smaller/cute clan that's from the empire would look to the warrior clan as dumb savages that are doomed to die.

    That said, I haven't finished HW yet, so I'm going off an incomplete understanding of lore (so I apologize if this clashes with what we have).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player.
    That's because you assume everybody who plays one of them chose them because of ears or horns instead of in spite of them. Personally I chose the Miq because of body type and facial structure. I didn't pay alot of attention to the lore or ears. I actually kind of cringe when he does that surprise paws motion in cut scenes. But ignoring the ears I like the character's appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
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    No I'm not? The people assuming players who want Viera should just wear bunny ears are the people who assume we pick our races just because of the ears and horns. I know there's many possible reasons behind picking your race: that's why I switched from Miqo'te to Au Ra when they released despite people claiming they're both "waifu races" and we didn't need the iteration we got. Au Ra look and feel completely different from Miqo'te, at least to me (IMO they're much closer to Elezen to be honest, as it seems they were going more for an elegant vibe, but with a shorter race. At least for the girls). So having the choice mattered. That's what I don't understand when people just say "wear bunny ears." Same with people shutting down the want for bestial races by saying things like "Roes look beastly enough, play them instead."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
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    Then you shouldn't call them a hypocrite if you don't know what their reasons are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    I will never understand this comment coming from a Miqo'te or Au Ra player. Never. Let's add cat ears to the Gold Saucer and delete Miqo'tes from the game entirely. We have head gear with horns, so no need for Au Ra. Forget their unique emotes, lore, and just overall aesthetic. People only care about 'dem ears, so just get rid of them and let us all be Hyur that wears specific ear gear. Same with Elezens given the recent thread: delete Elezens and just give Hyurs and Roes ear extension glamour.
    Point is that we already have a number of animal-humanoid races.
    I would rather they focused their time and energy on expanding the customization of the races we already have, rather than just getting another animal-humanoid race.
    Currently the face options for all races are rather limited, with only one or two options that don't look excessively derpy.

    I am all for new races, but I would rather see half breeds of the races we already have.
    There are only so many animal-humanoid races you can add before the game starts to feel like a zoo.
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    I wouldn't mind a Viera race if they actually make them with Fran build. Tall, slender yet still proportioned. All I want is a slim tall elegant proportioned race. I don't care about the bunny ears, I'd say they are cherry on the cake.
    If they make it another clone of short cute waifu Miqote or AuRa, I'd say don't even bother. lol I was so disappointed at how AuRa girls turned out. Oh well.
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    Stop arguing about whether Viera should be added or not in my thread. This is not for you. This is for ideas concerning how they'd fit in. It is supposed to be constructive ideas ONLY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Stop arguing about whether Viera should be added or not in my thread. This is not for you. This is for ideas concerning how they'd fit in. It is supposed to be constructive ideas ONLY.

    And I don't think they would fit in at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Stop arguing about whether Viera should be added or not in my thread. This is not for you. This is for ideas concerning how they'd fit in. It is supposed to be constructive ideas ONLY.
    I think the fear is that the more ammunition you leave a development path with, even from a community as unheard or unutilized as ours, the more likely it becomes. That, and simply the effort seems such a waste to those who dislike the development path that they figure discouraging the efforts amount to one's own good.

    I can't say I don't understand the feeling, but you already have my constructive post on page 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Stop arguing about whether Viera should be added or not in my thread. This is not for you. This is for ideas concerning how they'd fit in. It is supposed to be constructive ideas ONLY.
    That is not have forums work. You had to know what was going to happen when you made this thread, don't pretend that you are surprised. Anyone that has been on these forums for more than a week knows that Viera always cause a shit storm.

    Also I hope we never get them. they are just humans with bunny ears, if they get added it should be as a third tribe for cats.
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