How Would Viera Fit In XIVs lore?

[RitsukoSonoda]

I wouldn't mind seeing Viera in game. However lore wise from the games that took place in Ivalice "FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII" only had female Viera in them. While this could easily be resolved through storytelling it seems like SE wanted to stay away from making races gender exclusive as back in FFXI Mithra which Miqote were based on were female only and Galka which roes were based off of were male only.

Ivalice also gave us the races of Bangaa, Nu Mou, Seeq, and Gria while also having playable moogles that were probably size wise about on par with a lalafel and didn't fly.

[Mature]

Take me to Ivalice and let me bring a Viera with me!!!

[Felis]

Maybe they will be a new beast tribe

[Paladinleeds]

Maybe they will be a new beast tribe

You know, if that happened I would absolutely laugh my head off (because by goodness it would be a troll and a half from Yoshi-P). There is no precedent for making beast tribes into playable races (and I think lore-wise, it's a complete no-no too), so if this were to happen, I think it would mean all those wanting Viera as a playable race would be out of luck.

[Nestama]

For Viera to work, they'll need to already exist on Hydaelyn (making them playable because of the Ivalice raid wouldn't work). As we never saw a Viera in Othard, or amongst the Garlean empire/army, I'm doubting we'll be seeing them in Islabard (Garlean controlled territory). This leaves The New World to the west of Eorzea... and since we might not even get into Islabard until either 5.0 or 6.0 (based on what Yoshi-P has implied regarding storming the Garlean capital), we probably won't expect Viera to be playable until 7.0 :T

Reason why they can't be playable after the Ivalice raid is released: lore and timeline. If the Ivalice raid is going to be a portal to the Ivalice, then it's impossible for them to be playable as something shouldn't exist before they can exist (it'd be a paradox and there'd be no explanation behind it). If it's not a portal to the Ivalice, then why haven't we seen them in FFXIV yet? Why aren't they vaguely mentioned or implied in the lore book?

Lupin on the other hand...

[Raikai]

I think Viera would be a GREAT addition IF they went for a amazon stereotype, females being very tall, slender, muscular... and the males being the complete opposite: short, with more delicate features.

Something like the inverse of Au Ra currently are.

[silentwindfr]

I wouldn't mind seeing Viera in game. However lore wise from the games that took place in Ivalice "FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII" only had female Viera in them. While this could easily be resolved through storytelling it seems like SE wanted to stay away from making races gender exclusive as back in FFXI Mithra which Miqote were based on were female only and Galka which roes were based off of were male only.

Ivalice also gave us the races of Bangaa, Nu Mou, Seeq, and Gria while also having playable moogles that were probably size wise about on par with a lalafel and didn't fly.

viera of ivalice had male, they was only not the dominant like the miqote the women are the dominant and the male are hidding keep it away from the sight for protect them. (fran talk of it in FF12)

For Viera to work, they'll need to already exist on Hydaelyn (making them playable because of the Ivalice raid wouldn't work). As we never saw a Viera in Othard, or amongst the Garlean empire/army, I'm doubting we'll be seeing them in Islabard (Garlean controlled territory). This leaves The New World to the west of Eorzea... and since we might not even get into Islabard until either 5.0 or 6.0 (based on what Yoshi-P has implied regarding storming the Garlean capital), we probably won't expect Viera to be playable until 7.0 :T

Reason why they can't be playable after the Ivalice raid is released: lore and timeline. If the Ivalice raid is going to be a portal to the Ivalice, then it's impossible for them to be playable as something shouldn't exist before they can exist (it'd be a paradox and there'd be no explanation behind it). If it's not a portal to the Ivalice, then why haven't we seen them in FFXIV yet? Why aren't they vaguely mentioned or implied in the lore book?

Lupin on the other hand...

you realize we only have seen half of orthard and we haven't seen the biggest continent isalbard... then who know what exist there.... plus with the fact that the world is divided in dimension it perfectly possibel to have another umbral era with the merge and the apparition of a continent *shrugs* everything is possible.

[Nestama]

They can't be on Othard, as there's no reason for them to not be in Kugane as random NPC's and if they were on Islabard, some would need to be Garlean soldiers (as Islabard is a region completely dominated by the Garlean empire), which we should have seen by now (why would the Garleans keep soldiers who would be nimble in combat on the back lines?). This leaves the New World to the west of Eorzea, which most likely has not been invaded by the Garleans and has little to no lore on it (all we know is that the Mamool Ja came from there). Or heck, maybe even Meracydia... somehow.

It's not possible to make Viera playable because of the Ivalice raid. Everything in FFXIV follows a timeline and we'll be doing the Ivalice raid after we finish the Stormblood story. If SE care about the lore of their game, they cannot/will not make a race that doesn't exist (until after a certain point in the story) playable.

[spf1200]

Stop arguing about whether Viera should be added or not in my thread. This is not for you. This is for ideas concerning how they'd fit in. It is supposed to be constructive ideas ONLY.

That is not have forums work. You had to know what was going to happen when you made this thread, don't pretend that you are surprised. Anyone that has been on these forums for more than a week knows that Viera always cause a shit storm.

Also I hope we never get them. they are just humans with bunny ears, if they get added it should be as a third tribe for cats.

[NatSilverguard]

a lonely drunk hyur confused a bunny as a sock.