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    Garlean experiment escapee
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    Lore ?
    When has lore ever stopped anyone of putting anything weird into the game ?
    Really ?

    Make an island with large stone statues around the coast and be done with it.
    We have their racial mount already in game from a festival.
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    Godbert already suplexed all the Viera to death so he could sell their ears in the Manderville Gold Saucer.

    But seriously, can we have a race that's something other than just "Human + ears/tail/horns of a (insert animal here)."?

    Out of the dozens of races found in Final Fantasy games over the decades, there must be a race that's more unique and visually distinct than that.

    Plus, you can already stick rabbit ears on your (female) character. Do we really need an entire RACE of them thrown in as well...? :\

    I'd rather see playable Lupin because they'd be something wildly different. Also, they're the only beast tribe that hasn't summoned a primal yet (which actually places them ahead of Ala Mhigans :P ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    Also, they're the only beast tribe that hasn't summoned a primal yet (which actually places them ahead of Ala Mhigans :P ).
    Namazu, Qiqirn, the Kojin technically aren't the ones that summoned Susano....

    Also Viera are a lot more than just bunny ears on a hyur.

    "Lupin are just hyur with a dog head and tail...."
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    The entire argument of "no it's stupid. I don't like it, so we shouldn't have it" is so childish. More content and more races is never a bad thing. The more variety and character customization options we have, the better, regardless of your bias against certain things. Viera is too popular to ignore forever.

    As for the topic itself, it doesn't really matter. XIV can shoehorn anything they want into its lore. This game is pure fanservice and anything can be made to fit into the world. But I think when they add "Viera", they'll make a race that's exactly the same but called something differently. They could tweak it to fit their lore needs under a different name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    More content and more races is never a bad thing.
    Not necessarily. It depends on how closely to your heart you hold the old saying of "Quality over quantity". If people feel like content and races aren't of the quality they deem suitable for their own standards then that has less to do with "being childish" and more along the lines of consumerism. This is all under the assumption that resource allocation on SE's part is heavily limited (Which we all know it is)- meaning that when the only stuff being released is stuff that isn't up to snuff in someones opinion, I feel like it's a perfectly valid reason to complain without the "childish" card coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Not necessarily. It depends on how closely to your heart you hold the old saying of "Quality over quantity". If people feel like content and races aren't of the quality they deem suitable for their own standards then that has less to do with "being childish" and more along the lines of consumerism. This is all under the assumption that resource allocation on SE's part is heavily limited (Which we all know it is)- meaning that when the only stuff being released is stuff that isn't up to snuff in someones opinion, I feel like it's a perfectly valid reason to complain without the "childish" card coming out.
    "I don't like bunny girls" isn't a valid reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    "I don't like bunny girls" isn't a valid reason.
    It lines up with what I said pretty well lol. They don't like bunny girls, limited resources are going towards bunny girls.

    Plus when we get down to the nitty gritty of it- "I like bunny girls" is just as valid/invalid as "I don't like bunny girls".
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    I wouldn't mind seeing Viera in game. However lore wise from the games that took place in Ivalice "FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII" only had female Viera in them. While this could easily be resolved through storytelling it seems like SE wanted to stay away from making races gender exclusive as back in FFXI Mithra which Miqote were based on were female only and Galka which roes were based off of were male only.

    Ivalice also gave us the races of Bangaa, Nu Mou, Seeq, and Gria while also having playable moogles that were probably size wise about on par with a lalafel and didn't fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing Viera in game. However lore wise from the games that took place in Ivalice "FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII" only had female Viera in them. While this could easily be resolved through storytelling it seems like SE wanted to stay away from making races gender exclusive as back in FFXI Mithra which Miqote were based on were female only and Galka which roes were based off of were male only.

    Ivalice also gave us the races of Bangaa, Nu Mou, Seeq, and Gria while also having playable moogles that were probably size wise about on par with a lalafel and didn't fly.
    viera of ivalice had male, they was only not the dominant like the miqote the women are the dominant and the male are hidding keep it away from the sight for protect them. (fran talk of it in FF12)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    For Viera to work, they'll need to already exist on Hydaelyn (making them playable because of the Ivalice raid wouldn't work). As we never saw a Viera in Othard, or amongst the Garlean empire/army, I'm doubting we'll be seeing them in Islabard (Garlean controlled territory). This leaves The New World to the west of Eorzea... and since we might not even get into Islabard until either 5.0 or 6.0 (based on what Yoshi-P has implied regarding storming the Garlean capital), we probably won't expect Viera to be playable until 7.0 :T

    Reason why they can't be playable after the Ivalice raid is released: lore and timeline. If the Ivalice raid is going to be a portal to the Ivalice, then it's impossible for them to be playable as something shouldn't exist before they can exist (it'd be a paradox and there'd be no explanation behind it). If it's not a portal to the Ivalice, then why haven't we seen them in FFXIV yet? Why aren't they vaguely mentioned or implied in the lore book?

    Lupin on the other hand...
    you realize we only have seen half of orthard and we haven't seen the biggest continent isalbard... then who know what exist there.... plus with the fact that the world is divided in dimension it perfectly possibel to have another umbral era with the merge and the apparition of a continent *shrugs* everything is possible.
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