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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    It's the most requested race. It's obvious, especially with Dalmasca coming in the future.
    It's artificially the most requested race, especially since posters such as yourself create multiple threads every month relating to Viera instead of keeping it contained to one particular thread. Then again, a quick browse through your post history shows that Viera aren't the only subject that track record is applicable to.

    At any rate, no new playable races until we get an upgraded character creation system with more options. Thanks.
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    We have a massive continent to explore that is currently generally considered to be Garlemald controlled.

    I would not be surprised if the Viera lived in a nation somewhere within that cloud covered section of the map. Just like I would not be surprised if deeper into Othard we came across a group of isolated fox people (in the style of au ra, miqote) who are descendants of the fox guardians (one of which being the amnesiac guardian connected to the Fox Lady fate chain, or related to the Guardian that is part of the AST story quests) who could become playable character race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    We have a massive continent to explore that is currently generally considered to be Garlemald controlled.

    I would not be surprised if the Viera lived in a nation somewhere within that cloud covered section of the map. Just like I would not be surprised if deeper into Othard we came across a group of isolated fox people (in the style of au ra, miqote) who are descendants of the fox guardians (one of which being the amnesiac guardian connected to the Fox Lady fate chain, or related to the Guardian that is part of the AST story quests) who could become playable character race.
    fox guardian race? Woah, not to get off topic, but when did this happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    fox guardian race? Woah, not to get off topic, but when did this happen?
    The AST 60-70 story is all about helping a geomancer not only learn about astrology, but also help him deal with an enraged Golden Fox Guardian that brought great misfortune to Hingashi and Kugane in particular. The Fox Guardian was sealed away, but the seal was not permanent as none of the geomancers in his family line could stomach the thought of doing the blood sacrifice and condem a soul to be the barrier for eternity.

    Also the Yanxia fate chain involving Kinko, Ginko, and the girl who transforms into the giant fox you need to suppress because she is out of control. The giant fox is a Guardian of the area who unfortunately has Amnesia and is being targeted by a group seeking to obtain her powers. The other people (who are likely lesser guardians) supporting her are also being targeted as they are trying to help her recover. It ultimately leads to the Outfoxed fate where she loses control which leads to the Fox Lady fate to suppress her long enough to regain control.
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    SE needs to spend that time fixing our existing races first! I'm getting tired of only 4 horn options!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    How would you like your Viera?
    Deader than a door nail. Eaten by dragons. Not in my forest.

    Also, they're deformed humans with ears and a tail. So...not special at all.
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    Just a notice, but can we not use this thread to argue character customization? It's not fair to derail my thread, and argue in circles. Viera threads are not an excuse to jump in, derail, and whine about character customization, unless it's about the subject. Make your own thread.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 07-13-2017 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    1) There are no reliable metrics to be able to claim it's most requested.

    2) There are many things that players ask for that are not good ideas.
    1) SE themselves stated Viera were the most requested race in the older new race polls in ARR and 1.0 days. The devs themselves even drafted up pages and pages of concept art, the best of which was released in the Stone and Steel artbook.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/46936
    A quick google search will give you much of the concept art.

    He also VERY RECENTLY stated that Viera is not off the table. https://www.finder.com.au/final-fant...ormblood-viera

    2)Explain to me why this is a bad idea?

    I mean objectively give reasons why adding a highly demanded and beloved race found in FF canon would only be a bad thing?

    Tastes mean nothing if you are a jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post

    2)Explain to me why this is a bad idea?

    I mean objectively give reasons why adding a highly demanded and beloved race found in FF canon would only be a bad thing?
    There are no objective reasons to not implement it, just as there are no objective reasons to add them. It's all subjective.

    My personal belief is that Viera are shallow, immature, and tasteless creations. They are not only ugly, but are nothing more than bunny girls.

    Now true, some people don't share my opinion. Some people like them. I do not agree with them, and they do not agree with me obviously. But their reasons for wanting them are no more "objective" than my reasons for not wanting them.

    And as I said, just because players want a thing, that does not make it a good idea. And some players wanting something is certainly not an objective reason for doing it.

    If they add Viera, I'll obviously have to deal with it or quit playing the game (I'd have to deal with it because it's not enough to make me quit the game), but I have the right to express my opinion to SE that it would be a bad decision, and I will exercise that right.

    Also, aside from the poll not being about Viera specficially (it was "Mammalian demi-beastmen"), it only received 28% of votes, which even if we accept that result statistically, isn't representative of the community and was closely matched by "hybrid races".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    And as I said, just because players want a thing, that does not make it a good idea. And some players wanting something is certainly not an objective reason for doing it.

    If they add Viera, I'll obviously have to deal with it or quit playing the game (I'd have to deal with it because it's not enough to make me quit the game), but I have the right to express my opinion to SE that it would be a bad decision, and I will exercise that right.
    And yet SE decided to add in these tiny lizard waifus that exist in the same, human + animal bits character niche as miqo'tes, but even more kawaii uguu, and you don't see me storming into au ra threads arguing that they should be removed from the game because they're weirdly disfigured for not having ears or quitting the game over it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Last edited by Roda; 07-13-2017 at 11:10 AM.

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