Why HP inflation is a valid concern

[GunnarBerwerf]

That is a problem that you dont fix with the values on the items, its a problem you fix with the formula, if they decide we do too much dmg, they nerf the proportion on the formula, not the value on the item, its simple as changing a number in a formula used by ALL the items in the game, unless they screwed that up and put that formula directly into the item, which i highly believe is not the case ... its as simple as changing that calculating formula from 0.45/0.45 to 0.45/0.25 or something... really. Its simple, the "inflation" do not make sense, because if the formula is split, u can just nerf the AP side of the attack power on what vit gives and not change the HP side of the formula that vit gives.

All the inflation comes as a problem when you treat the problem as a tied number that as the same time it increases HP it increases AP , but they are 2 different status that come from the same stat (vit) and somewhere in the code there is a formula that have a value that how much vit increases HP and how much vit would increase AP , two separate numbers, that increases specific things, it would just be balancing that numbers, they can change how much vit gives ap without messing how much vit gives HP ... unless again, there is a fundamental flaw in their code that they are not able to do it, and that is wrong, and lazy coding.

[Takamorisan]

If there is too much vit for tanks, why do my tanks hp drops to >10% against susanoo ex tanks buster?

Because you are dealing with people that don't know how to manage their CD's, next question?

[Baci]

They need a test server.

That right here. Be it a public or a private test server. They need more Information from the outside

[Mnemosynia]

What racks my stupid little brain is this: A tank that has been wearing full VIT for the entirety of this game's lifetime has had the content tuned to his/her HP (however poorly) and it has been growing steadily by the same rate over time with levels and gear - so, when did this sudden, legenedary "A WILD HP INFLATION HAS APPEARED" problem arise?

Its like, SE just pulled this problem out of a hat and was like "THIS! THIS is the problem" and everyone in this thread is just smiling and nodding when it was not something that anyone had ever complained about before ever, it was never a topic on any Live Letter prior to this month, I've literally never heard anyone talk about HP inflation as being a problem this game has or has ever had until the past week.

I unliked your post so I can like it twice.

[Kitfox]

Except the separate scaling of VIT:AP vs VIT:HP is already modular. It seems far too many people think VIT being tied to both HP and AP MUST mean that HP is magically tied to AP.

Pretty sure VIT:AP and VIT:HP are not modular to level 70 though. Which means any adjustment at any level range would affect all content.

[mcspamm]

Its like, SE just pulled this problem out of a hat and was like "THIS! THIS is the problem" and everyone in this thread is just smiling and nodding when it was not something that anyone had ever complained about before ever, it was never a topic on any Live Letter prior to this month, I've literally never heard anyone talk about HP inflation as being a problem this game has or has ever had until the past week.

I'm completely guessing here, but maybe while projecting tank HP values into 4.4 / 4.5, they're worried about tanks having six digit health for some reason.

"Oh no, players will be able to go back and laugh off insta-death mechanics in ARR content while undersized!1" (as if we can't do that already)

Regardless of how valid that concern is, it's the only possible explanation I can think of.

[GunnarBerwerf]

Pretty sure VIT:AP and VIT:HP are not modular to level 70 though. Which means any adjustment at any level range would affect all content.

But if theformula is based on percentages (which it should be, if not its a big flaw) and only do changes after all the calculations, a change for the 70 range would be the same on lv 10. But lets say thats a problem, they should work on balancing end content and not low level content that you out lv in a couple of hours.

[GunnarBerwerf]

I'm completely guessing here, but maybe while projecting tank HP values into 4.4 / 4.5, they're worried about tanks having six digit health for some reason.

"Oh no, players will be able to go back and laugh off insta-death mechanics in ARR content while undersized!1" (as if we can't do that already)

Regardless of how valid that concern is, it's the only possible explanation I can think of.

If that is the case , its a problem with iLV inflation and not anythign else, they would need to do a revamp in stats scaling with ilv like wow did years ago, when they faced that same problem.

[Kitfox]

But if theformula is based on percentages (which it should be, if not its a big flaw) and only do changes after all the calculations, a change for the 70 range would be the same on lv 10. But lets say thats a problem, they should work on balancing end content and not low level content that you out lv in a couple of hours.

I guess my point is why affect old, properly balanced, content when you don't have to? The new stat system ensures that you can adjust offense and defense separately and do it with gear stats which are level modular. I just don't see how the STR scaling is a worse system. Sure, the accessory situation is stupid, but that's a different argument (getting right side upgrades don't increase dps and that feels bad).

[Reynhart]

Say that they give us back the old 0.45/0.45 formula for our attack power. It feels good for awhile. Then they decide that we're doing too much damage. How do you tone it down?

This is not HP inflation, but AP inflation.

The same in reverse. If we're not doing enough and they want to boost us? Increase the vit gain on accs, but now that gives us more HP than what they balanced making the raid/damage values on.

They can reduce the scaling of AP on our VIT.

Now, the same question as your second one, but with the current situation. They decide we're not doing enough damage with our only accessories option being VIT. How will they fix that ?