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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    And I really don't understand why we think it would be better to go back and add STR to every last piece of right-side tank gear in the game than to simply change the scaling of a single stat and be done. What is even the point of this? Is STR just a more prettier more favorite-est stat?
    Because like it or not, they've specifically stated they're not going to return to VIT scaling. Even assuming you're right about everything else, that's their decision. I will also say it is possible to set AP at a different value to prevent the inflation they're referring to, but I'm assuming that's not something they want to do. Part of it is yeah they're being a bit wishy washy, but regardless of their reasons, I think they don't want to continue to change the AP scaling.
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    Last edited by YitharV2; 07-13-2017 at 02:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    The AP scaling factor is something that affects the entire level range, it doesn't change based on level. Some scale that works with gear at lvl70 might not work at lvl30 or 50. Changing the scaling factor has a chance to break something elsewhere. Changing VIT and STR on new gear only affects new fights and they can be tuned without affecting prior gear and scaling. Separating VIT from AP also doesn't affect incoming damage or non-tank VIT values when they want to tune tank dps, so it's better for balancing.
    You mean like SE changed our AP Scaling back to STR which totally did not screw with low level tanks aggro?
    Sorry but SE doesnt plan so far ahead. They just change/tweak some stuff and hope it works
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baci View Post
    You mean like SE changed our AP Scaling back to STR which totally did not screw with low level tanks aggro?
    Exactly. Now imagine they screwed up the scaling EVERY patch with new stuff by changing the AP multiplier. Would that be good? No. It's better they have a solid AP scaling principle and only tune the new gear to the new fight in order to not screw up the old stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Exactly. Now imagine they screwed up the scaling EVERY patch with new stuff by changing the AP multiplier. Would that be good? No. It's better they have a solid AP scaling principle and only tune the new gear to the new fight in order to not screw up the old stuff.
    ? Does not ilvl increases only "screw" up the old stuff? And with regards to level sync content... they just did that. With most of the DPS getting potency increases and this little thing called direct hit pre 61 stuff dies faster then ever. They really could care less about how it impacts old stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    ? Does not ilvl increases only "screw" up the old stuff? And with regards to level sync content... they just did that. With most of the DPS getting potency increases and this little thing called direct hit pre 61 stuff dies faster then ever. They really could care less about how it impacts old stuff.
    Yeah, they obviously don't care at all. They especially did not increase tank enmity because everyone and their mom complained about tank enmity at low levels, except they did. I guess it's up to interpretation what that means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baci View Post
    You mean like SE changed our AP Scaling back to STR which totally did not screw with low level tanks aggro?
    Sorry but SE doesnt plan so far ahead. They just change/tweak some stuff and hope it works
    They need a test server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    They need a test server.
    Depends on what you mean by "test server". In WoW, "test server" means a way to spoil future storyline for everyone months in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    They need a test server.
    B-but spoilers, or something,

    Yeah, they need a test server. Even if it's just an empty room to strictly test gear and gameplay, that'd be a big improvement, I think.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Exactly. Now imagine they screwed up the scaling EVERY patch with new stuff by changing the AP multiplier. Would that be good? No. It's better they have a solid AP scaling principle and only tune the new gear to the new fight in order to not screw up the old stuff.
    Here lies the problem. They are screwing with the scaling but do not change the gear.
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    I just don't get it. Assuming our stats grow with gear as they always have and HP scaling remains static as it always has, how is .45/.45 VIT/STR any different at all from .9 STR with STR crammed into all of our gear, or .9 VIT with everything else neatly untouched? How? How does this warrant constant adjustment?
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