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    Would you rather everyone believe that every last member of Garlemald and Nazi Germany are nice guys and 100% support them? Because that's what you're getting at. Garlemald has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and the only way to guarantee the world remains safe from them is to destroy them otherwise they'll keep trying to destroy everyone else. (Ultima, Black Rose, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    Would you rather everyone believe that every last member of Garlemald and Nazi Germany are nice guys and 100% support them? Because that's what you're getting at. Garlemald has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and the only way to guarantee the world remains safe from them is to destroy them otherwise they'll keep trying to destroy everyone else. (Ultima, Black Rose, etc)
    I feel that there is an excluded middle here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I feel that there is an excluded middle here.
    If you support the empire you support Nazi Germany. There is no middle ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    If you support the empire you support Nazi Germany. There is no middle ground
    ???

    Are you alright there, buddy? You do realise this is a forum to discuss the lore of a fictional setting, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    Would you rather everyone believe that every last member of Garlemald and Nazi Germany are nice guys and 100% support them? Because that's what you're getting at. Garlemald has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and the only way to guarantee the world remains safe from them is to destroy them otherwise they'll keep trying to destroy everyone else. (Ultima, Black Rose, etc)
    No one has actually said they support them 100%, but you are being just as extreme. Garlemald aren't the ones destroying the planet first of all. That's all on the beastmen, and garlemald has decided that the ONLY way of stopping that is by killing off all beastmen who follow some kind of belief system (which is just as extreme as your thought process). Although the fact they have beastmen in their armies throughout stormblood shows they aren't entirely about wiping them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Garlemald aren't the ones destroying the planet first of all.
    Right.... So I supposed the Garleans didn't try to crash a freaking moon into the planet which would have ended all life as we know it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    Right.... So I supposed the Garleans didn't try to crash a freaking moon into the planet which would have ended all life as we know it
    Well if you actually knew about the lore the moon didn't destroy the world, only eorzea for the most part and not even all of it was destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Well if you actually knew about the lore the moon didn't destroy the world, only eorzea for the most part and not even all of it was destroyed.
    Because it never completed it's descent and instead Bahamut broke free (while exploding dalamud into pieces (which still caused a lot of damage but not as much as it would have if it were whole). Meanwhile if not for Louisoix's sacrifice Bahamut would have been free to ravage the world with no one to stop it. The fact remains that is entirely Garlemalds fault they knew what they were doing and they went along with it anyways. Lets also not forget what they did to Midgard which really screwed our planet over. You so desperately want to think they're good when they are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    Because it never completed it's descent and instead Bahamut broke free (while exploding dalamud into pieces (which still caused a lot of damage but not as much as it would have if it were whole). Meanwhile if not for Louisoix's sacrifice Bahamut would have been free to ravage the world with no one to stop it. The fact remains that is entirely Garlemalds fault they knew what they were doing and they went along with it anyways. Lets also not forget what they did to Midgard which really screwed our planet over. You so desperately want to think they're good when they are not.
    No one in this thread has outright stated garleans are good.
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