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    Quote Originally Posted by Efrye View Post
    What kind of logic is this? It's a problem if the pet dies, so remove the pet?

    Easier solution: Pet's don't take damage and can't die. Problem solved!
    Then you have an easily abuse-able system in which the Dragoon can simply kite mobs while the Wyvern kills everything for it.

    I think the playerbase's decision on this matter is fairly clear: They would rather NOT have a pet attached to the job.

    That doesn't mean there are no alternatives. Why we can't simply put Wyverns on the same optional 'battle mount' content as chocobos is beyond my understanding. That way it's balanced against the likes of Chocobos and Magitek armors instead of balanced against Dragoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Then you have an easily abuse-able system in which the Dragoon can simply kite mobs while the Wyvern kills everything for it. [...]
    Look, what I was trying to say is that those problems can be solved without skipping the pet. If you don't want the Wyvern to kite, then don't let them get hate. If you don't want them to attack whithout getting hate while the dragoon is kiting, then only make them attack when the dragoon attacks. There's no shortage of solutions, and there are a thousand ways of implementing a pet.

    As someone mentioned before, having a wyvern would be a good way to differentiate the job - even if it's only in appearance. The only reason why it's rejected seems to be
    a) because people are lacking basic understanding of math, and
    b) because all they can think of is an exact copy of the system in XI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efrye View Post
    Look, what I was trying to say is that those problems can be solved without skipping the pet. If you don't want the Wyvern to kite, then don't let them get hate. If you don't want them to attack whithout getting hate while the dragoon is kiting, then only make them attack when the dragoon attacks. There's no shortage of solutions, and there are a thousand ways of implementing a pet.

    As someone mentioned before, having a wyvern would be a good way to differentiate the job - even if it's only in appearance. The only reason why it's rejected seems to be
    a) because people are lacking basic understanding of math, and
    b) because all they can think of is an exact copy of the system in XI
    Your solutions only creates more complications. The favorable solution is to simply not divide the Dragoon strength with the pet. Also the sentence I highlighted is irrelevant. My proof is Dragoons in past Final Fantasy games and those after XI. I want to show you some examples.

    FF4 Kain Highwind
    FF7: Cid Highwind
    FF8: Ward Zabac. (Jump attack)
    FF9: Freya Crescent
    FF10: Kimahri. Also has Jump Attack
    FF13: Oerba Yun Fang.
    FF13 Versus: A female dragoon seen in trailers. Jumping on-board an airship.

    What do they have in common? Jump, and Lances. Easy to differentiate right? None of them had a pet. sooooo no to pets.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 11-04-2011 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Your solutions only creates more complications. The favorable solution is to simply not divide the Dragoon strength with the pet. Also the sentence I highlighted is irrelevant. My proof is Dragoons in past Final Fantasy games and those after XI. I want to show you some examples.

    FF4 Kain Highwind
    FF7: Cid Highwind
    FF8: Ward Zabac. (Jump attack)
    FF9: Freya Crescent
    FF10: Kimahri. Also has Jump Attack
    FF13: Oerba Yun Fang.
    FF13 Versus: A female dragoon seen in trailers. Jumping on-board an airship.

    What do they have in common? Jump, and Lances. Easy to differentiate right? None of them had a pet. sooooo no to pets.
    congratulations you just described lancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    congratulations you just described Dragoon.
    I fixed it for you. You can thank me by researching those games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I fixed it for you. You can thank me by researching those games.
    i dont have to research anything as i have played every game listed there more than once and have completed them all. save for versus and that i probably will too.

    Dragoon is lancer such as it was in tactics the name being localized and what not.
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    I want them to focus on [SIZE="5"]JUMPING [/SIZE]and [SIZE="5"]BREATHING FIRE.[/SIZE]

    Not having a useless pet.

    Edit: and I mean the Dragoon JUMP, not the WoW jump that some people keep crying about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    congratulations you just described lancer.
    Can a simple Lancer do this? :

    I say no to Dragoon Pet. Keep all the Dragoon skills to the Dragoon himself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Can a simple Lancer do this? :

    I say no to Dragoon Pet. Keep all the Dragoon skills to the Dragoon himself
    This. A thousand times this, people. If you keep begging for a Wyvern after seeing this, you have no appreciation at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Can a simple Lancer do this? :

    I say no to Dragoon Pet. Keep all the Dragoon skills to the Dragoon himself
    I totally agree with something like this.
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