Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

[giantslayer]

Eos needs to be the single target fairy and Selene needs to be the AOE healing fairy (much like the MCH turrents).

Your idea got me thinking. A simple way of implementing a single target vs AoE faerie concept would be to leave Eos as is (to be the AoE faerie with Whispering Dawn) and buff the potency of Selene's Embrace.

I also had an idea to replace Silent Dusk with a physical defense buff, similar to Fey Covenant.

I put those ideas, along with several others and some more in-depth commentary, into a separate thread. Please have a look at it.

SCH Adjustment Ideas

[Rawrz]

I cannot agree with Excog since, in instances with Instance actions, Excog will be unusable.

On ps4 my buttons to use Veil is R2 + R3. You would use a different skill for popping Excog. L2 + L3.

I like the idea around Selene's Fey's Union, but why a defense boost? Why not make it a damage boost?

If it became a damage boost, you wouldn't be finding yourself use Eos for the gage whatsoever.

That Emergency Tactics change is weird, but I can kinda see what you're going for? Maybe if the potency was increased as well, I would be more on board since it's less convenient to weave oGCD abilities now with less instant-cast spells.

Its just another opportunity to use your kit. Bio II -> ET -> Bio II slams them with 700 potency compared to Bio II + Broil = 580.

I love this Break change, but I think SMN's Tri-Bind should be 80 while Break is around 60.

At 60 it would take 4 targets to outweigh Broil 2. At 80 it would about tie with 3.

[giantslayer]

On ps4 my buttons to use Veil is R2 + R3. You would use a different skill for popping Excog. L2 + L3.

Wait... I know you can set macros to L3 and R3. Did you find a way to make it do different things in combination with R2 and L2? If so, I would be interested in learning.

[Riyshn]

At 60 it would take 4 targets to outweigh Broil 2. At 80 it would about tie with 3.

That's fine. That's where Blizzard II vs Broil was in HW.

[inhaledcorn]

@Rawrz: People suggested that Eos could be an AoE heal pulse for the gauge, or maybe make Eos a defense boost and Selene a damage boost. The gauge just being a glorified Rouse is really underwhelming.

While the Break suggestion would be a DPS gain with 4 at 60, it's a gain at 5 at 70. With Break at 80, the gain would be at 3 and 4 for 60 and 70 respectively.

I still don't understand why Excog should be an instance skill.

[MajikNET]

You know what would be really nice? A "reverse" Emergency Tactics. Sometimes I know something big is coming and I want to prepare and mitigate, so instead of wasting my MP on over-healing (because every-time I want to be prepared for something, I basically _have_ to over-heal to get the shield), let me have a "Predesign Tactics" button (I'd sacrifice Dissipation or Exgoc for this at this point?) to put 100% of the Adlo / Succor into the Galvanize and forego the heal!

[KDSilver]

100% succor is basically a deployed adlo (150 + 150 and adlo is 300).
But this is some idea (i mean, actually giving scholar mitigation again instead of raw heals)

But I'd rather like they increased succor/adlo potency and reduce the mana cost.

[Supersun]

My 2 cents on Scholar adjustments.

Excog: I have a feeling that the "original" effect of this skill like Dissipation was something they felt was too broken so they last second adjusted it to give Sch another near worthless skill because of how fringe its uses are. I mean what is Excog except a pre-emptive heal...just like a...shield....My suspicion is that Excog used to be an Aetherflow skill that cast a potent shield on the target that they later felt was too broken and then instead changed it to the near worthless current Excog....Just make Excog give a shield, that would actually be useful on a Sch.

AoE DPS: Sch definitely needs some help in this regard, and I don't really see any other good way around it besides just giving us another skill. At the same time I'd be disappointed if the skill was essentially a weaker Holy or Gravity. What I'd like to see is a skill that hits the primary target with a short DoT of like 12 secs, but also hits everything else around that target with like 100 potency. This would make Sch's AoE DPS rotation actually somewhat interesting as the ideal way to DPS a pack down would be to cycle through the pack to cast this DoT on each monster so they all get the DoT yet the rest of the pack would continue to get hit by the 100 potency AoE even after (or before) you cast the DoT on them. If you are concerned about Sch single target damage then so long as the initial DoT is less than Broil IIs damage then people probably won't use it (except when they actually need to AoE adds)

Faries: I know this is something that has a near 0% chance of happening, but it'd be nice if the way both fairies were handled were changed. Mainly what I'm thinking of is that Summon I summons the fairy, then Summon II swaps the fairy for free, but the skill has like a 30sec-1min cooldown. It would be interesting to have the ability to use both fairies in combat besides needing to spend a bajillion MP to do so.

[giantslayer]

You know what would be really nice? A "reverse" Emergency Tactics.

This is a brilliant idea! Having a capability like this would make us competitive with Noct AST in the shielding department again without adding more power creep by just inflating potencies. I think the best implementation of this would be to revamp Deployment Tactics into what you described. This will allow us to get the equivalent of a deployed Adlo every 30 seconds at a larger radius (via Succor), at the cost of losing the potential to deploy an ungodly amount of shielding through spreading a crit Adlo. I honestly think the potency of a deployed crit Adlo is a bit of a problem for the Dev Team, and this would be a solution that works for almost everyone.

I've added this to my idea thread.

[Ceasaria]

Emergency Tactics: Transforms the next Galvanize status into HP recovery equaling the amount of damage reduction intended for the barrier or transforms your next Bio II or Miasma into a front loaded effect of 350 potency or 300 potency respectively. Will not apply the debuff, but instead do the entire damage up front.

Your idea I think doesn't fit the name and will be used only to do dps.

Choice is what is important. It has a cool down of 30 seconds. How often do you use ET? Probably allot less than that. Being able to help BURST something down is an EMERGENCY. See Bismark's Carapace.

Ok for this kind of situation.

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It was 2 years ago now I have suggested a modification of this spell and now it's even more important with the mp management.
My idea was "The cost mp of the next succor or adlo is reduced by 50%"