Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

[HappyHubris]

Is there a good SCH guide online for 4.0? I'm healing on my summoner for quick queues and - while successful - I feel like I'm underperforming my WHM. Clearly I'm missing some class nuance.

Do most Scholars manually direct their fairy? How good is the fairy AI?

[MercuryAcetylene]

Are you sure about this? I tested it last night and the accumulated amount prior to Dissipation remained after resummoning the fairy.

it doesn't do that now, I would only want that to happen if the above on my post got added. otherwise it would be too OP. everything needs a drawback and my fix to what I mentioned above it would be to wipe the faerie gauge clean of any points.

[Deox]

Is there a good SCH guide online for 4.0? I'm healing on my summoner for quick queues and - while successful - I feel like I'm underperforming my WHM. Clearly I'm missing some class nuance.

Do most Scholars manually direct their fairy? How good is the fairy AI?

Manual Control, park fairy within 15 yards of the tank, rouse and use fairy regen spell after tank stops pulling to fight.

Adlo before pulls or applying dots if lots of monsters still

spam physick and drop a lustrate around 30 or 40% tank hp in big pulls

If tank is dropping fast and low hp Emergency tactics adlo into lustrate

Vs bosses use fey tether when tank is around 60% hp and continue dpsing, remember to turn off when tank is near 90% to not waste meter

[MercuryAcetylene]

Do most Scholars manually direct their fairy? How good is the fairy AI?

We direct our fairy to a specific spot on the map that will keep it out of harms way, but also keep it within reach to heal whoever may pass by it. Well, that's what I do anyway. for 4.0 so far, I haven't had to worry about it getting hit that often so I sit Eos directly in the middle so her Feys can hit the max amount of people. the arenas are pretty small this time around. I kind of wish they were bigger like back in Coil, but that was a lot of wasted space since everyone just kind of crowded in a corner. she will move on occasion even if you do this to reach people you may need to heal. finding a nice central location so she doesn't have to move often is key, otherwise she will have to travel which can takes a few seconds, then she'll try to heal while you need her to Fey. by that time, it's already too late if she had to move into place to heal first.

[LegoTechnic]

Is there a good SCH guide online for 4.0? I'm healing on my summoner for quick queues and - while successful - I feel like I'm underperforming my WHM. Clearly I'm missing some class nuance.

Do most Scholars manually direct their fairy? How good is the fairy AI?

You want to direct your fairy's positioning as little as possible, and typically the only two pet positioning commands you will ever need are Heel and Place. Fortunately she is unperturbed by most attacks, but can be killed by cleave and repositioned by some knockback effects (see: Ifrit EX), so avoid cleave zones especially. Usually placing her in the center is fine but if the arena is large putting her directly behind the boss works as well, though you may need to readjust as the fight moves. Get an idea with testing of what the ability range is, as Whispering Dawn has a 15 yalm radius and Fey Wind a 20y one. If you have a tank + ranged DPS combo and they stand at opposite ends of the arena, then just do your best because sometimes things just don't go your way. Also note that some bosses can target the fairy, Brute Justice and his laser being a primary example, though this is rare (and the fairy takes no damage from such attacks anyway).

Fairy AI is best described as "slow". She will take your command, process it, and then fulfill it at "fairy speed". Movement is simple and standard run speed, and she cannot perform actions while moving. If she is in the middle of a cast, she will not perform your next command until the currect action is finished. All fairy abilities have a 2-second cast time, so if she is casting Embrace or something then she will finish and then start casting the next move, and cannot interrupt her action unless she is physically interrupted by an attack. She will automatically embrace the player with the lowest health in range as long as they are under 80% max HP.

If using Eos, set her to Obey and get into the habit of triggering her abilities as they're needed (try to always Rouse before Whispering Dawn). If Selene, you are almost always better off leaving her on Sic because managing Fey Wind is a massive quality of life annoyance, and her silence is typically too slow to trigger to be of any notable use if you're trying to command it manually (the esuna is ok though).

Also if you placed your fairy during a boss fight, remember to set it back to Heel before you leave or it may stay there and desummon when you head off. QoL.

[Ghishlain]

it doesn't do that now, I would only want that to happen if the above on my post got added. otherwise it would be too OP. everything needs a drawback and my fix to what I mentioned above it would be to wipe the faerie gauge clean of any points.

Oof, I see, missed the context entirely xD Sorry~

[Squintina]

I just want my Sustain back. It's hurting solo play at lower levels, physick can barely make a dent.

[sumiree]

Mained SCH since 2.0 and wanted to give some feedback regarding current toolkit.
The experience was based on the extreme trials and deltascape.

Dissipation requires some tweaking. I would suggest to add some MP recovery based on current Fey gauge maybe? to compensate back the MP required to resummon the fairy.

Adlo not being used as so frequent as per compared to 3.0 for obvious reason. Probably only used during dungeon pre-pull and Adlo + Deployment for room wide aoe mitigation.

Excog, one of the skills that was underutilized. The wasted aetherflow stack is too much for a penalty. The only time I use these was during Susan Ex stormsplitter tank buster. But your co-heal probably already pre-cast Cure II so it is pretty much not needed :/

Fey Union/Aetherpact, range too short. Else probably will be very useful during Susan Ex second phase when one of the tank eating the blue orb.

[MercuryAcetylene]

I just want my Sustain back. It's hurting solo play at lower levels, physick can barely make a dent.

I was dumb enough to put Dissipation in the spot I used for Sustain... kept hitting it thinking I was healing my fairy.

[SweetPete]

I just want to chime in on this.

Fairy abilities really need to be thoroughly looked at. I for one really miss Selene's "Fey Light and Fey Glow" Especially if you kept her on sic. You always had one or the other up at all times. Not sure why SE removed them. Silliest decision they made. Why are all Fairy abilities on such long CD's anyway. Honestly when I first saw the fairy gauge I thought all the fairy abilities would play into it. For ex "Whispering Dawn would cost 25 points in the gauge etc" Which will make the abilities spam worthy but must have the points in the gauge to use them. I don't think it would make them overpowered because the fairy is now pretty weak anyway. The fairy gauge should have more use than just one ability. Make all abilities use the fairy gauge.