Thread: Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by ThirdKeyOfSun

Since SCH/SCH is the only duo healer setup that suffers somewhat from being together (WHM regens stack and AST can just be in different stances to compliment each other) how much opposition would there be to changing the way Succor works?
Say if there are shields up on targets already (from a previous Succor) when Succor is cast it heals its normal amount and then takes half of what it's shield component would have been and adds it to it's healing amount instead of shielding? This would be to lessen the detriment of having two scholars in an AoE healing intensive fight (Indom is great but has a cooldown and a cost so isn't always an available).

If that change were to be made, the whole shield amount should be changed into heal as that would make the potency 300, just like the other healers (at almost 2x the cost, though).

After playing around with Exog and Aetherpact, I can now outright say both are pretty useless.

Aetherpact is a joke. Used it in expert roulette on the tank who ended up having to move a bit. Then realized the tether had broken, the heal stopped and yet it was still sucking down the fairy gauge.

Tried Exog a few times on the same tank (PLD) who I realized kept spamming Clemency so Exog was wasted both times I used it.

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

After playing around with Exog and Aetherpact, I can now outright say both are pretty useless.

Aetherpact is a joke. Used it in expert roulette on the tank who ended up having to move a bit. Then realized the tether had broken, the heal stopped and yet it was still sucking down the fairy gauge.

Tried Exog a few times on the same tank (PLD) who I realized kept spamming Clemency so Exog was wasted both times I used it.

Could it possibly be that these abilities are much more usable for 8man content? :thinking:
And if the tank doesn't know how to utilize the buffs you give them it's barely the skill's fault.

Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet

Could it possibly be that these abilities are much more usable for 8man content? :thinking:
And if the tank doesn't know how to utilize the buffs you give them it's barely the skill's fault.

LOL it is 100% the skills fault if, in my example, the tank moves a tiny bit one way to avoid an AOE and that breaks the Aetherpact chain yet still sucks down the fairy gauge. Yes, that is 100% the skills fault. Don't be ridiculous.

For Excogitation I would rather have a 650 potency shield (no heal) but still able to crit that I could either deploy or insta cast for a tank buster. At least then it gets used regardless and all the extra healing in the world wont change that; keeping the AF cost. This just fits the flavor of SCH better. Think Adloquium but with no heal, shield only

Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet

Another option is to make keybinds for the pet hotbar, but I guess that's not an ideal solution either. As Riyshn mentioned Embrace works for both pets, even it's greyed out for one of them.

Yeah, id really just like to have them on my HB. I like to avoid macros where I can. Keybind idea isn't so bad but its another button combination to learn vs just doing what I do with 2 HBs.

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

LOL it is 100% the skills fault if, in my example, the tank moves a tiny bit one way to avoid an AOE and that breaks the Aetherpact chain yet still sucks down the fairy gauge. Yes, that is 100% the skills fault. Don't be ridiculous.

Either you need to realize that you shouldn't use the skill when the tank is going to have to move soon or the tank needs to learn to not mindlessly run around.
But yes, please balance all classes around expert roulette and low skill level play.
It can definitly use a buff to its range, but it's far from "useless".

Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet

Either you need to realize that you shouldn't use the skill when the tank is going to have to move soon or the tank needs to learn to not mindlessly run around.
But yes, please balance all classes around expert roulette and low skill level play.
It can definitly use a buff to its range, but it's far from "useless".

Your condescending attitude is all I need to see to realize you're no longer worth responding to.

Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Your condescending attitude is all I need to see to realize you're no longer worth responding to.

Have a nice day.

Just a small tip, you can cancel Fey Union again if you notice the tank is running out of range.

Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet

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While I agree with most of what you've said, please don't make it out to be a good move. Fey Union is utter Dog Shite.

Ironically I've actually found more use for it in Expert Roulette than I have Omega NM/EX Primals.