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  1. 07-05-2017 08:43 AM

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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    This becomes more noticeable in Omega duty finder where people are learning mechanics, but have you died with Lucid Dreaming on cooldown and no BRD or MCH in party? It's miserable. Aetherize does not give you enough MP to resummon your fairy (2400 MP to summon, ilvl 314 full verity/Lakshimi/Susano gear returns 1838 MP without piety melds), and you can't wait around doing nothing hoping to regen your mana supply, so you're double-punished for your death regardless of reason. And in case you want to know how much piety you need to bring Aetherize up to 2400 from 1838, you're looking at needing about 750 of it. You can make up the different with a single energy drain (+1200 mp), but that puts you one again out of mana after the summon with two stacks remaining, which is not great given spell MP costs, so you either blow your other two energy drains to cast 1-2 spells and go without stacks, or use the stacks and heal and just regen naturally. Or you don't resummon the fairy.

    It feels bad, man. Really bad. Especially if your death wasn't your own fault.

    I imagine this is a problem SMN also feels, because after you res, you have to make the choice of whether you can resummon your pet, and if you feasibly can't due to incoming mechanics (in our case AoE or busters), that's just a horrible feeling.
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 07-05-2017 at 10:24 AM.

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    Lionel Dubois
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 60
    3.X SCH was at an almost perfect standpoint, with very few flaws but also not being ridiculously OP.

    SCH now can't even handle themselves in terms of healing, and their faeries can't properly assist with keeping the party alive. Back in 3.X, SCH could easily manage an entire 8-man party, now they can't. While we did get one of the buffs we were asking for (Earlier access to a status defect healer), we lost nearly our entire kit.

    My suggestion will be broken up into a few posts because of character limit:

    ARC / SCH

    Aetherflow
    Return it to 20% MP restoration.
    The reason why I say that is because Scholar's kit heavily relied on constantly pumping out Galvanize while placing your DoTs on enemies to help the party out. Thanks to this nerf, Scholar now faces the issue of almost never having MP, even when they solely focus on healing.
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    Lionel Dubois
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Eos
    Embrace
    Return heal potency to 300.
    Eos is now the absolute worst healer, worse than the chocobo everyone gets.
    Fey Covenant
    Increase physical defense as well as magical defense.
    Very few enemies in the game are even magic casters, and even then they don't do enough damage compared to physical classes to warrant a magic-exclusive defense boost.
    Fey Illumination
    Return the healing potency increase to 20%, or at least 15%.
    Give some use to SCH, please?
    [center]Selene
    Silent Dusk
    Inflict Malady and Heavy
    May as well make her useful?
    Fey Wind
    Increase speed boosts, add increased damage dealt.
    No one even uses Selene...
    (1)
    Last edited by Flannel; 07-05-2017 at 11:23 AM.

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Flannel View Post
    3.X SCH was at an almost perfect standpoint, with very few flaws but also not being ridiculously OP.
    SCH was op since 2.X, basically inception. The only reason it didn't feel OP is because it had been for two entire expansions. This is actually the first time SCH was removed from its godly and mandatory prestige pedestal.
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    SCH was op since 2.X, basically inception. The only reason it didn't feel OP is because it had been for two entire expansions. This is actually the first time SCH was removed from its godly and mandatory prestige pedestal.
    SCH was never OP. Cleric Stance was just designed in such a way that the fairy was the best source of healing while in it. SCH has always had lower HPS. Now that Cleric Stance is effectively gone, the flexibility and strength of DPSing and Healing has now been given to everyone else and now it's become very obvious that SCH is, in fact, the weakest raw healer.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    it's become very obvious that SCH is, in fact, the weakest raw healer.
    Except it's only obvious now because they were significantly and drastically nerfed in many ways, including their effective healing efficiency. Like I said, they've literally just been brought down to normal.
    (1)

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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Except it's only obvious now because they were significantly and drastically nerfed in many ways, including their effective healing efficiency. Like I said, they've literally just been brought down to normal.
    Their healing never needed nerfs. They were never OP in this regard. They were only good because they had solid sustain heals with DoTs. This allowed them to achieve higher DPS because they could afford more time to do so. Coupled with the themepark ride that was Creator Savage, and there you go. Eos can solo heal 30% of the fight. What made SCH "OP" was never their raw healing, it was the sustained nature of it which is no longer something they dominate. Everyone can heal and DPS very easily now without having to waste GCDs dancing in Cleric Stance. It's because of Cleric Stance's changes that SCH is actually weak right now.
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    Lionel Dubois
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Bio I & II
    De-streamline the Bio chain.
    Back in 3.X, SCH commonly used Bio I, II, Miasma I, and Aero from WHM in order to provide DPS support for the party.
    Aldoquin
    Decrease the MP cost.
    Aldoquin was perfectly fine how it was back in 3.X.
    Succor
    Decrease MP cost, change heal potency from 150 to 250.
    Succor is basically useless, and it was useless even back in 3.X, because it was a pitiful heal that lead to a pitiful Galvanize regardless of it being a critical heal or not.
    Sustain
    Bring Sustain back.
    It makes it easier to keep the summons alive without wasting SCH or other healers' time on them.
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Can we stop comparing the chocobo and the fairies? They are not the same. It's apples and oranges.
    (2)

    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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