Thread: Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

Part 2

I can't say much about Fey Union or Chain Strategem just because I'm not there yet, but on paper Fey Union's range seems disappointing. Chain Strategem sounds like a great skill for raids.

The Aetherflow MP regen nerf is a bit upsetting, definitely forcing us to get Lucid Dreaming. However it shouldn't be a 10% regen, compromise a bit and make it 15% percent so it is still a nerf.

My overall critique of this class now is just that too many skills require Aether stacks when they are vastly outperformed by better skills. I understand the importance of choosing with a scholar, its all about the right strategy, however all it is doing is eliminating half the skills we have just because they are NEVER worth it.

Today, I did the level 67 dungeon and I have a good tank with me. It's almost impossible to heal them through big packs, let alone DPS, let alone outpt DPS that is actually a contribution. I can't stress how bad it feels to Bane, use that pathetic Shadow Flare and then Broil fifty times. But you can't broil, because if you DPS more, the tank will die because the pet is horrible. It can't even keep up with auto attacks from one strong mob. Anyone who says that Scholar is in a good position does not know what they are talking about. What the hell do I have Excog for? It uses a stack and is barely different from a Lustrate, which is just as responsive. It's a terrible skill in dungeons, a bit more viable in raids (tankbusters). But even then, why does it cost a stack? It's a slighty buffed Lustrate for crying out loud. What am I to do with this crap, really? Aetherflow trait is so pointless as well, does it really help? It's worse than the WHM trait in terms of usefulness. This class is absolute garbage at the moment, in particular in dungeons. It has terrible raw healing and terrible DPS. But hey, we have an incredibly short crit buff. All is well. I'm done ranting. SE should seriously fix this crap, asap.

Originally Posted by Deox

Sorry I can't relate I've had zero issues healing tanks mass pulling and 0 issues keeping the party up in exs.


Complaining about having to use lustrate is silly as well that's one of the sch main healing tools.

For massive trash pulls I open with adlo while they are about to grab stuff, when we get to the destination, eye for an eye rouse, fairy aoe heal for regen, toss excog on, fairy tether apply dots spread shadowflare then physick with lustrate when needed. If they start to dip low I'll do a emergency adlo into lustrate.

Literally 0 issues keeping tanks alive and 0 issues with mana.

If you are running out of mp from succor time your indom and fairy aoe heals better.

Record yourself doing the level 67 dungeon where the tank pulls everything after clearing the first two packs just using physick. I also open with Adlo, a near 10 cridlo lasts a good four seconds. Just enough time to Bane. Excog a slightly better Lustrate, it rarely helps over Lustrate itself. Nobody is also saying or complaining about Lustrate usage. Keep the strawman arguments at bay. I cleared each tier of Savage, I'm a very experienced healer. I like to DPS as a healer, which you can't do nearly as well as you can on AST or WHM. I never run out of MP, I never said MP was an issue, but you will be spamming Adlo. But alright, I challenge you to record the pull I am talking about. Because I use Rouse, I divine seal my adlo with EoS healing buff, I use Excog and you will be spamming heals for the life of you.

I use all the tools you do, but probably with a better, more experienced tank. You have to work twice as hard as a Scholar with half the damage you can output, even less. And since you do less damage, the mobs die slower, which makes you have to heal more damage. There are glaring issues with Scholar.

Originally Posted by Deox

Sorry I can't relate I've had zero issues healing tanks mass pulling and 0 issues keeping the party up in exs.

You do not need to spam adlo that is wrong.

Complaining about having to use lustrate is silly as well that's one of the sch main healing tools.

For massive trash pulls I open with adlo while they are about to grab stuff, when we get to the destination, eye for an eye rouse, fairy aoe heal for regen, toss excog on, fairy tether apply dots spread shadowflare then physick with lustrate when needed. If they start to dip low I'll do a emergency adlo into lustrate.

Literally 0 issues keeping tanks alive and 0 issues with mana.

If you are running out of mp from succor time your indom and fairy aoe heals better.

In dungeons sometimes Physick spam plus Lustrates aren't enough and I don't know what to do other than spend mana on Adloquiums. Is my tank just bad/undergeared?

EDIT: Jeez I've been 70 for a while, when is my forums profile going to update?