SAM out classing all other DPS

[Shiroe]

Yeah, world fastest speed runs, there mnk would have trouble getting in, in 3.4/3.5-ish, didn't deny that.., but mnks still gut spots in other (fast) farming pfs. Casters had bigger trouble getting in.

And Sam like mentioned, still has the slashing buff. Sam won't become a mnk 3.4/3.5, if the gab is lowered a bit for other classes. Maybe just extend the duration of the Sam slashing buff.

[Limani]

And Sam like mentioned, still has the slashing buff. Sam won't become a mnk 3.4/3.5, if the gab is lowered a bit for other classes. Maybe just extend the duration of the Sam slashing buff.

That would doesn't anything, because the Slashing Debuff is a Sen that we used earlier then the Debuff falls off

[Lastelli]

Yeah, world fastest speed runs, there mnk would have trouble getting in, in 3.4/3.5-ish, didn't deny that.., but mnks still gut spots in other (fast) farming pfs. Casters had bigger trouble getting in.

And Sam like mentioned, still has the slashing buff. Sam won't become a mnk 3.4/3.5, if the gab is lowered a bit for other classes. Maybe just extend the duration of the Sam slashing buff.

The slashing debuff is irrelevant as well since statics will probably bring a NIN as well for trick attack. Exclusive utility is what matters, and SAM brings none. Unless for some reason the optimal party composition will not include a NIN, but I highly doubt that.
The slashing debuff rotation is fine, it will never fall off if the SAM knows what he's doing.

[MomoOG]

The slashing debuff is irrelevant as well since statics will probably bring a NIN as well for trick attack. Exclusive utility is what matters, and SAM brings none. Unless for some reason the optimal party composition will not include a NIN, but I highly doubt that.
The slashing debuff rotation is fine, it will never fall off if the SAM knows what he's doing.

This is bad logic. If NIN is automatically included in every party than there is another imbalance that needs to be adjusted. No single class should have a guaranteed spot.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

And Sam like mentioned, still has the slashing buff.

Let's see... slashing debuff vs slashing +TA... nah, if all SAM had was the slashing debuff, then they'd be benched faster than 2.0 WAR. Slashing would only qualify as utility if the other jobs that can put theirs up lose something in exchange, like 3.X WAR vs NIN. NOW, in all three classes that have it, their required to put it up for their own personal dps(Sen, Storm's and DoTs respectively). Compound this with the fact that any good SAM won't put the slashing debuff up till nearly the 10th GCD and... yeah. SAM needs to have a high personal dps to balance out vs NIN's TA. Sorry, Trick is the counter to any equally good SAM.