The Royal Menagerie

[EdwinLi]

Like Susano, it's a good fight except for the super lame quicktime event button spam mechanic. Some of us play the game on PC with a keyboard and mouse like MMOs are meant to be played.

The quick time event can be passed by using 'WASD" as well. Using both WASD and clicking the button with the mouse will actually fill up the QTE bar faster than a console controller does.

First pug group wiped 4 times and fell apart. Second wiped 5 times. Third try went with 6 ppl from fc and 2 randoms and cleared first try. There was much cheering on discord for those of use that needed the clear. Was a great fight!

Trials for 4.0 are certainly not for the light hearted and lay back people compared to 2.0 and 3.0. DF is full of light hearted and lay back people that gotten use to the average difficulty level of 2.0 and 3.0 story content Trials but 4.0 Trials are a real wake up call to them that they cannot be taking things easy anymore.

[Sylvina]

The quick time event can be passed by using 'WASD" as well. Using both WASD and clicking the button with the mouse will actually fill up the QTE bar faster than a console controller does.



Trials for 4.0 are certainly not for the light hearted and lay back people compared to 2.0 and 3.0. DF is full of light hearted and lay back people that gotten use to the average difficulty level of 2.0 and 3.0 story content Trials but 4.0 Trials are a real wake up call to them that they cannot be taking things easy anymore.

This is entirely the wrong way to think about it. People who take the game too seriously and can't be light hearted and laid back tend to be jerks who pollute the community. I have no desire to EVER run with anyone who isn't light hearted and laid back.

When I did this I managed to beat it in a party FULL of light hearted and laid back people, so... why would you even make this argument?

[EdwinLi]

This is entirely the wrong way to think about it. People who take the game too seriously and can't be light hearted and laid back tend to be jerks who pollute the community. I have no desire to EVER run with anyone who isn't light hearted and laid back.

When I did this I managed to beat it in a party FULL of light hearted and laid back people, so... why would you even make this argument?

You misunderstand what i mean by light hearted and laid back. I am not talking about personality but by content being how people gotten use to easy level content due to how simple 2.0 and 3.0 trials have been for Story mode Trial content.

When I said these things I am talking about people who have gotten very use to the 2.0 and 3.0 story content difficulty level being easy to face roll through without much require effort or has far more room to recover from mistakes compared to 4.0 trial difficulty which has far less room to recover from if not instantly kill a player for making 1 mistake.

A lot of people now are adjusting to this sudden increase in Story Trial difficulty since 2.0 and 3.0 did not fully prepare them for this new difficulty level in 4.0.

Sorry if the misunderstanding offended you in anyway.

[Cirith]

I've tried about 8 different duty finders and none of the groups can do it with the minimum ilvl 280 gear required for the duty... I expect this to be the extreme mode for this difficulty and not the normal difficulty. Some of us just want to get through for the story after all... It would be nice if we could have access to the gear vendors before having to deal with this fight...

[Namixx]

Fight of this level of difficulty has no business being in main story.

I was hc raiding in one other game and I know full well how (in)capable is usual casual player.

Difficult raids are supposed to be part of extreme, optional raids.

Casual players who just want to finish msq are now being blocked by a trial and countless hours of frustration for which you get nothing at all except 10 stones.

[Sylvina]

Fight of this level of difficulty has no business being in main story.

I was hc raiding in one other game and I know full well how (in)capable is usual casual player.

Difficult raids are supposed to be part of extreme, optional raids.

Casual players who just want to finish msq are now being blocked by a trial and countless hours of frustration for which you get nothing at all except 10 stones.

It's really not that bad, it's just new and people dont know how to beat it yet. Give it a month or 2 and it will be fairly easy, especially due to people starting to outgear it.

[Hyperia]

It's really not that bad, it's just new and people dont know how to beat it yet. Give it a month or 2 and it will be fairly easy, especially due to people starting to outgear it.

So your asking casuals to wait up to two months to finish their MSQ?

Also, I'm already seeing people drop when this shows up.

[Lambdafish]

Fight of this level of difficulty has no business being in main story.

Final steps of faith hit hard and was about this challenging back in 3.3. That was also part of the main story. People complained but after being beaten down so much by 3.0/3.1/3.2 nerfs, the community had waves of backlash against the call for nerfs and it stayed as is.

[RyuDragnier]

Fight of this level of difficulty has no business being in main story.

I was hc raiding in one other game and I know full well how (in)capable is usual casual player.

Difficult raids are supposed to be part of extreme, optional raids.

Casual players who just want to finish msq are now being blocked by a trial and countless hours of frustration for which you get nothing at all except 10 stones.

Final Steps of Faith would like a word with you on that...and really, how do people have a hard time with this fight? Assuming you've never stepped foot inside of a raid before, Shiva HM taught you not to move during the ice floor, The Vault taught you how to get rid of chains, Susano taught you to stack up for the stack mechanics, and Doma Castle taught you how to avoid the big room wide AoE. If you can't put all that together, nor know how to use your class after at least 20 levels playing it, no offense, but you've truly learned nothing.

[Taika]

Fight of this level of difficulty has no business being in main story.

Why should all main story content be the level of difficulty that a party of braindead monkeys could complete it blindfolded?

The fight can, as it is right now, well be defeated in a random party completely blind to the fight as it is now - just perhaps not on the first try or even in the first allowed time. It's challenging, but beatable without preparation, knowledge of the fight, gearing or even particular skill in playing your job.