The Royal Menagerie

[EdwinLi]

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It will nerf itself once more players are ilvl 310 and higher. The difficult is mostly contributed by players being between ilvl 280 to 290 gear which makes the fight drag on longer than a group of ilvl 310 and higher gear members.

The longer the fight takes the more prone to mistakes people get as platforms get destroyed and TP and MP recovery becomes more needed which is why it is best to always have someone with MP recovery for the healers currently until more people are geared.

[HyoMinPark]

It will nerf itself once more players are ilvl 310 and higher. The difficult is mostly contributed by players being between ilvl 280 to 290 gear which makes the fight drag on longer than a group of ilvl 310 and higher gear members.

I already commented that the fight would get easier once we started outgearing it. Regardless, I don't think the "getting 7 other randoms to cooperate and do mechanics" mechanic will ever go away. And sometimes, part of the fun is learning to adjust with 7 other random players (and some of the difficult doesn't come from the fight itself, but from the party members).

As for the refreshes, the group I was in last time, our final pull, I didn't have to touch either of my refreshes (I was running on BRD). Most of the MP strain comes from unnecessary raises, and the more people learn to deal with the mechanics properly, the less unnecessary deaths and raises there will be.

[HyperSMB]

As for the refreshes, the group I was in last time, our final pull, I didn't have to touch either of my refreshes (I was running on BRD). Most of the MP strain comes from unnecessary raises, and the more people learn to deal with the mechanics properly, the less unnecessary deaths and raises there will be.

I SERIOUSLY want to echo this. A decent healer can mana sustain themselves through everything but the hardest AoE spam UNLESS you force us to rez three people in 20 seconds. That DESTROYS MP bars and there is little a non WHM popping Thin Air can do to mitigate the hurt quick raises inflict.

[Stanelis]

It will nerf itself once more players are ilvl 310 and higher. The difficult is mostly contributed by players being between ilvl 280 to 290 gear which makes the fight drag on longer than a group of ilvl 310 and higher gear members.

The longer the fight takes the more prone to mistakes people get as platforms get destroyed and TP and MP recovery becomes more needed which is why it is best to always have someone with MP recovery for the healers currently until more people are geared.

You deal most of the damage by killing the tail. Ilvl isn't a factor on this encounter.

[EdwinLi]

You deal most of the damage by killing the tail. Ilvl isn't a factor on this encounter.

Ilvl does have a factor in this fight as the tail is not always up thus players will have to focus on Shinryu himself during the down time of tails and there is a DPS "time limit" in this fight.

During moments when Tails are not up the party will have to focus on Shinryu himself to cause damage and sometimes Shinryu will destroy two platforms with his tail which will prevent players from having a chance to kill the tail.

If too many platforms are destroyed before Shinryu is killed then the fight will instantly reset. Missing a tail or two can cause this if the party's DPS is a bit lacking due to too many death penalty or just dead.

[Sylvina]

Like Susano, it's a good fight except for the super lame quicktime event button spam mechanic. Some of us play the game on PC with a keyboard and mouse like MMOs are meant to be played.

[EdwinLi]

Like Susano, it's a good fight except for the super lame quicktime event button spam mechanic. Some of us play the game on PC with a keyboard and mouse like MMOs are meant to be played.

The quick time event can be passed by using 'WASD" as well. Using both WASD and clicking the button with the mouse will actually fill up the QTE bar faster than a console controller does.

First pug group wiped 4 times and fell apart. Second wiped 5 times. Third try went with 6 ppl from fc and 2 randoms and cleared first try. There was much cheering on discord for those of use that needed the clear. Was a great fight!

Trials for 4.0 are certainly not for the light hearted and lay back people compared to 2.0 and 3.0. DF is full of light hearted and lay back people that gotten use to the average difficulty level of 2.0 and 3.0 story content Trials but 4.0 Trials are a real wake up call to them that they cannot be taking things easy anymore.

[Sylvina]

The quick time event can be passed by using 'WASD" as well. Using both WASD and clicking the button with the mouse will actually fill up the QTE bar faster than a console controller does.



Trials for 4.0 are certainly not for the light hearted and lay back people compared to 2.0 and 3.0. DF is full of light hearted and lay back people that gotten use to the average difficulty level of 2.0 and 3.0 story content Trials but 4.0 Trials are a real wake up call to them that they cannot be taking things easy anymore.

This is entirely the wrong way to think about it. People who take the game too seriously and can't be light hearted and laid back tend to be jerks who pollute the community. I have no desire to EVER run with anyone who isn't light hearted and laid back.

When I did this I managed to beat it in a party FULL of light hearted and laid back people, so... why would you even make this argument?

[EdwinLi]

This is entirely the wrong way to think about it. People who take the game too seriously and can't be light hearted and laid back tend to be jerks who pollute the community. I have no desire to EVER run with anyone who isn't light hearted and laid back.

When I did this I managed to beat it in a party FULL of light hearted and laid back people, so... why would you even make this argument?

You misunderstand what i mean by light hearted and laid back. I am not talking about personality but by content being how people gotten use to easy level content due to how simple 2.0 and 3.0 trials have been for Story mode Trial content.

When I said these things I am talking about people who have gotten very use to the 2.0 and 3.0 story content difficulty level being easy to face roll through without much require effort or has far more room to recover from mistakes compared to 4.0 trial difficulty which has far less room to recover from if not instantly kill a player for making 1 mistake.

A lot of people now are adjusting to this sudden increase in Story Trial difficulty since 2.0 and 3.0 did not fully prepare them for this new difficulty level in 4.0.

Sorry if the misunderstanding offended you in anyway.

[Cirith]

I've tried about 8 different duty finders and none of the groups can do it with the minimum ilvl 280 gear required for the duty... I expect this to be the extreme mode for this difficulty and not the normal difficulty. Some of us just want to get through for the story after all... It would be nice if we could have access to the gear vendors before having to deal with this fight...