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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyXIV View Post
    I love EVERYTHING about this fight. It test everything I have learned, and I stood up and cheered so hard after we won.

    Thank you. Please don't change it. Please keep it this way! We as a community will learn, help each other, and we'll be out geared in no time.

    Thank you for a wonderful story in Stormblood!
    People said this about Steps of Faith and Final Steps of Faith. Sadly I can see SE nerfing it if enough people complain about the difficulty.
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    People said this about Steps of Faith and Final Steps of Faith. Sadly I can see SE nerfing it if enough people complain about the difficulty.
    Did Final Steps of Faith get nerfed or did people just out gear it? That's a pity if it did, Steps of Faith was just boring and tedious, Final Steps was/is a flipping amazing fight.
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Did Final Steps of Faith get nerfed or did people just out gear it? That's a pity if it did, Steps of Faith was just boring and tedious, Final Steps was/is a flipping amazing fight.
    It did not get nerfed, people did just out-gear it mostly, and I would tend to believe the developers agree with you on why they changed one and not the other.

    People quit all the time on the original Steps of Faith because it was frustrating and boring to know at a certain point that it was impossible to win, yet have to wait until the dragon makes it all the way to the end so you can lose officially and try again. People generally did not quit on the Final Steps of Faith because loss was a wipe and an instant chance to try again - they complained some, sure, but generally stuck with people for several attempts like most trials.

    I think the original Steps of Faith is also kind of similar to how we don't have full-party dungeons anymore after the end of the 2.0 story. Doing things really differently looks good on paper, because it brings variety to the game, but in the hands of MMO players who tend toward efficiency as a group, when "different" equates to a waste of time people avoid it. None of this has anything to do with difficulty, only speed and efficiency.
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    Ven Black
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    My MP bar has been hurting ever since i finished that fight.
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    Kairo Fujima
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    I can't wait for the EX version. I want the trial-themed weapons so bad.
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    If I die, forgive me. I used to be a Dragoon.

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    Dinah Demiurge
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    This is the kind of difficulty we should expect for normal fights. This is the bar for the future, SE. Don't let us down with another awful Zurvan monstrosity, please.
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    Olli Sr
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    This is the kind of difficulty we should expect for normal fights. This is the bar for the future, SE. Don't let us down with another awful Zurvan monstrosity, please.
    Zurvan got already beaten by Lakshmi. Solo tank strat for Lakshmi was a PF thing after a few hours. For Zurvan it took like a day or two to come up with the solo tank strat.
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    Volta Fross
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    Archer Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyXIV View Post
    I love EVERYTHING about this fight. It test everything I have learned, and I stood up and cheered so hard after we won.

    Thank you. Please don't change it. Please keep it this way! We as a community will learn, help each other, and we'll be out geared in no time.

    Thank you for a wonderful story in Stormblood!
    I laughed hard at this. You kidding me? This community? Soon as it pops up in Trial roulettes people bail or give it one shot and then bail.

    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    This is the kind of difficulty we should expect for normal fights. This is the bar for the future, SE. Don't let us down with another awful Zurvan monstrosity, please.
    Nah you want challenge EX is that way. MSQ doesn't need to be challenging. It's not there for that.
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    This is the kind of difficulty we should expect for normal fights. This is the bar for the future, SE. Don't let us down with another awful Zurvan monstrosity, please.
    Zurvan isn't even that bad it's got a design flaw ya, but more or less the community made it worse than it is, just like they do this fight.
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    Mana Kurogane
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    So glad I got to do the fight before any chance of nerfs come. I am going to forever remember this fight as the best story instance to date. Nidhogg used to be it, but now The Royal Menagerie is the king of story instances.
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