Put VIT back in Tank Damage Calculation.

[YitharV2]

SE wants tanks to be tanks and not dps ^^

so far i didnt have much trouble holding aggro

conclusion : deal with the changes that ur not dps and should not have as much dps as a dps class

You do realize holding aggro in tank stance is going to be a problem with DPS just getting stronger and stronger with accessories, right?

[Abriael]

You do realize holding aggro in tank stance is going to be a problem with DPS just getting stronger and stronger with accessories, right?

And if it's not a problem at all, where's the fun?

[YitharV2]

And if it's not a problem at all, where's the fun?

I mean you have a point. I personally think it'd be a bit more fun for me. But if you make aggro generation hard for good players, then it becomes a nightmare for not so stellar players. Also, spamming Butcher's Block is not my idea of fun.

[Abriael]

I mean you have a point. I personally think it'd be a bit more fun for me. But if you make aggro generation hard for good players, then it becomes a nightmare for not so stellar players. Also, spamming Butcher's Block is not my idea of fun.

I wouldn't certainly call it "hard" now. It's slightly more challenging, and it makes tanking a little more fun and tense.

[YitharV2]

I wouldn't certainly call it "hard" now. It's slightly more challenging, and it makes tanking a little more fun and tense.

Sigh... To quote what the OP said. I mean you look at RDM burst now, imagine if that doesn't change by 4.5 and they don't use their abilities to lower aggro.

All of this is what I'm trying to say but people are very short sighted and are only going "well it's ok for me nowso it must be totally ok forever" (it's mostly PLD saying this, too).

[Kazrah]

I wouldn't certainly call it "hard" now. It's slightly more challenging, and it makes tanking a little more fun and tense.

This sort of mentality makes tanks a dying breed. Yes, it's challenging and fun for tryhards, but for normal human beings, it's a key incentive to avoid tanking.

Again, if devs want to make tanking less stressful but keep tank damage down, one way of doing it is by using VIT to increase just the enmity generation from either weaponskills and abilities or--better yet-- increase the enmity generation bonus from tank stances.

[Abriael]

This sort of mentality makes tanks a dying breed. Yes, it's challenging and fun for tryhards, but for normal human beings, it's a key incentive to avoid tanking.

Tryhards? lol. Enjoying a tiny bit of challenge has nothing to do with being a "tryhard." It has to do with playing a game. Games are by definition engagements in which you can lose. If you want aggro to be basically automatic, then may as well use a bot instead of a "normal human being."

[Kazrah]

Tryhards? lol. Enjoying a tiny bit of challenge has nothing to do with being a "tryhard." It has to do with playing a game. Games are by definition engagements in which you can lose. If you want aggro to be basically automatic, then may as well use a bot instead of a "normal human being."

It's a balance though. Too easy and yes, you could use a bot for it, but too difficult and it deters people. Right now, it's fine for higher-end players who enjoy the challenge, but not for casual players who make up the majority of subs.