Put VIT back in Tank Damage Calculation.

[ExKage]

I'm a mediocre WAR in consideration that I barely ever stance dance unless I absolutely feel DPS is lacking. I have always strived in making sure my healers feel comfortable that I am holding aggro and not about to die all the time. Please stop thinking people who are having issues are just FOR DA DEEPZ.

Players still want to run when I'm now running on less TP and almost none of them have Goad or Enmity reducing cooldowns. Spamming overpower 5 times + Onslaught + Steel Cyclone + Berserk is not fun when you could have done with less Overpower as before AND it's CONAL. AND Steel Cyclone requires a few combos that aren't Butcher's Block AKA OUR ENMNITY COMBO to go off.

[Deadeye]

Yes, switch this please.

This is silly.

Extremely silly.

So, either lock them OUT so we HAVE to use the new ones or change this.

[eagledorf]

I just want to pop in and add, if it's somehow difficult to make attack power scale with VIT, the please just add STR to the tank accessories. They're locked out now so there's no reason not to do it.

[HELLruler]

This is probably part of the plan of making classes easier to play. In HW, you were required to stance dance, if not spend most time in damage stance to be optimal. Tanks would generate so much aggro that they could spend most of the fight in damage stance doing their damage combo with no problem. On the other hand, that was something reserved for raids/ex trials only. A common player could spend a whole dungeon in tank stance and that would not be detrimental to the run (maybe spending 2 or 3 extra mins, but who cares?)

I don't see VIT boosting tank damage anymore because death sickness doesn't reduce VIT. That means tank would still deal max damage while all the others are penalized for dying. A solution to this would be either put STR on tank accessories, or make tenacity meaningful

If nothing happens, I guess the main tank will be stuck in tank stance doing aggro combo to keep up with DPS, especially the super OP samurai

[Yahallo]

I don't see VIT boosting tank damage anymore because death sickness doesn't reduce VIT. That means tank would still deal max damage while all the others are penalized for dying. A solution to this would be either put STR on tank accessories, or make tenacity meaningful

Well even if we had the 3.x tank damage formula, we still wouldn't be doing max damage as Strength still affected our damage, it just had a lower scaling as we also got attack power from Vitality. Our damage would still be reduced if we had weakness, just not as much relatively as other jobs if we applied the 3.x formula.

[Falar]

Leave it like it is but add STR to our accessories.

[SunAurel]

PLD main here with a tad of Warrior and DRK and for me it's clear. Ever since they changed it to STR, playing the tanks makes less fun.

It's no secret that there is a shortage of tanks, and taking away damage is the wrong way to tackle it, and nerfing the tanks damage when a huge part of the fun of an MMORPG is doing damage, is counter-productive. You need tanks to especailly balance out all those people playing RDM and SAM now.

Tank DMG should not outclass DPS damage, I think we are all clear on that, but at the same time tanks should have impact on the overall dps and contribute other than being a sentinent striking dummy for the boss and having the occasional swap every now and then.

If SE doesn't change it and fix the enmity generation in 4 man instances (since esp WAR struggle a lot without Flash) and go back to Vit, then I can see myself changing to Red Mage and stop tanking and I am pretty sure I am not the only one.

And about the penalty for death, tbh I'd gladly have hp nerfed after death and have a VIT scaling damage.

[RLofOBFL]

They could just add a LITTLE str to tank accessories. Like 25. So with G6 materia that'd be 50.