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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide3 View Post
    I don't know about you guys, but i'm actually trying to get away from hard casting Suiton during boss fights because that's alot of global cooldowns lost.
    On the latest opener that I posted up there I'm using a pre-pull Suiton, tho it is sort of an stretch and may require giving SkS some importance.
    I have to agree that hard casting Suiton has a real negative effect on GCDs but for the sake of timing Ninki skills may be an actual valid factor, as 2 AutoAttacks can happen in the duration of a Suiton hard cast.

    Of course that if we go for Bhava before TCJ hard casting Suiton is a total waste :/

    Altho making the 2nd TA have the whole of TCJ fit in just fine (if you start with Bhava), I really fail to see it as reliable :/
    Seriously if anything Ninki generation will be for the NIN like casting bars are for BRD and MCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laflama_Blanca View Post
    You're going to be wasting ninki with this strategy. If you have a 2.108 auto attack speed you'll reach 180 ninki at 50.59 seconds after engaging. You're going to sacrifice about 3 auto attacks worth of ninki holding at 100 if you wait to use TCJ so the suiton comes out 10 seconds before trick. This issue will continue down the line; TCJ's cooldown is 100 seconds while trick is only 60, so trying to keep them lined up is problematic. You also want to keep TCJ lined up directly after ninjutsu as much as possible.
    A rule will be needed then to just use TCJ by itself with doton if it doesn't line up within a certain parameter to be used to enable trick attack. There's other means of forcing cooldowns to line up and alot of possibilitis still unexplored.

    I guess it all comes down to wanting to use either more bhavacakras or more frogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide3 View Post
    A rule to use TCJ by itself with doton.
    thought so but, SRS is 780 while SKD is 810... if you lose a single tic of Doton, you are done :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide3 View Post
    I guess it all comes down to wanting to use either more bhavacakras or more frogs.
    I don't understand what you mean by this. Ninki cooldowns dont offer much flexibility in this regard.

    On a side note, preliminary patch notes indicate skill speed will now affect auto attacks. This is very interesting and great for ninjas as it means more ninki generation than previously anticipated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laflama_Blanca View Post
    I don't understand what you mean by this. Ninki cooldowns dont offer much flexibility in this regard.

    On a side note, preliminary patch notes indicate skill speed will now affect auto attacks. This is very interesting and great for ninjas as it means more ninki generation than previously anticipated.
    Just me being silly in regard to using ten chi jin or bhava first.

    Skill Speed affecting auto attacks is an absolute game changer and openers will need some modifications again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laflama_Blanca View Post
    On a side note, preliminary patch notes indicate skill speed will now affect auto attacks
    Patch notes where?!
    link please??
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    Nevermind, it was from reddit and now looks to have been fake.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...heres_a_small/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laflama_Blanca View Post
    Nevermind, it was from reddit and now looks to have been fake.
    Aww D:
    Thats too bad...

    Yea I don't think we'll have any preliminary notes before the 13 :/
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    The tooltip in video were April batch. So we could still stay positive at changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNoob View Post
    The tooltip in video were April batch. So we could still stay positive at changes
    That really doesn't gimme any hope for Auto-Attacks :/
    But Ninki skills to be somewhat cheaper or more skills to generate Ninki (or Mug to have a much shorter CD) would be nice :/
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