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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Well... makes sense... but Auto-attacks is physical damage so it should be included.
    we've yet to know whats hellfrog and bhava tho O_o;;
    We know that Frog and Bhava are both magical in nature and are not affected by the trait. Also, the trait does not affect auto-attacks.

    I already submitted the miss translation for this, so lets hope they change it soon.

    The Japanese says it only affect physical actions OTHER than auto-attacks.

    Also, Frog and Bhava both say "unaspected magic damage" in the Japanese tool tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    the trait.
    I thought we were already on the clear on this??
    Maybe it was in my imagination or another thread >_>;;

    Oh well, never too late for more disappointment D':
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Got my Ninja to lvl70 last night, Love the AOE with hellfrog and the extra damage with bhava. Only tried Ten-Chi-Jin a couple times on some random mobs not sure how I feel about that one, What's everyone else think so far about Ninjas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDream View Post
    Got my Ninja to lvl70 last night, Love the AOE with hellfrog and the extra damage with bhava. Only tried Ten-Chi-Jin a couple times on some random mobs not sure how I feel about that one, What's everyone else think so far about Ninjas.
    Ten-Chi-Jin is tricky, since the odds of ever being optimal with it in new content are pretty much 0%. The 3 second standstill leaves a lot of room for error if you don't time it properly you'll end up floundering around trying to cancel it. Honestly, if I was SE I would add the following.

    Shukuchi: Can be used during "Ten-Chi-Jin" Depending on which part of Ten-Chi-Jin you are in the following occurs.

    0=90% recast reduction and restores 60 gauge
    1=60% recast reduction and restores 40 gauge
    2=30% recast reduction adn restores 20 gauge

    Basically give us the ability to escape from Ten-Chi-Jin without punishing us to severely, a Ninja should be able to Shukuchi escape if an AOE end up appearing over them while being able to restore gauge and regain recast based on how much they used or didn't use. So say you activate Ten-Chi-Jin but an AOE appears above you, quickly escape now you only have to wait for 10% of the timer and need 20 gauge to try again, if you get one off but have to escape then you just wait 40% of the duration to try again while just needing to build up 40 gauge.

    I think this would allow NIN to flow better since they would have an escape plan without having to go MUDA MUDA MUDA BUNNY RUN and lose out on all that damage potency.
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    I´m loving EVERYTHING in the "new" ninja...The UI...The skills...EVERYTHING!
    We have AOE....We have Burst dmg...We have dmg cooldowns...We are fast, nothing is useless in the kit (maybe that dream withing a dream skill that is boring as hell for a high lv one...but...we can´t have everything)!

    Obs: What i love the most is the new hide mudra refresh....jesus...i can´t love it more *o*
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    On favor of DwaD, they fixed it splendidly in this expansion, having its CD reduced from 90 to 60s and its potency increased from 300 to 450, it can perfectly synch with TA.
    Ever since this I've been using TA > DwaD almost in every fight for as long as it lasts and that's amazingly bursty.

    Huton > Hide > Doton has become an habit on trash pulls now, I really never used Doton as much as now D:

    Even at low level, I am so glad I have TA on Sastasha normal >_>;;
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    By using Hellfrog on the same frame as auto attack coming out, you start at 26 Ninki Gauge, instead of 20 normally from a 100% gauge. Allowing you to include additional Ninki prior to Trick attack falling off.
    Can't use TCJ doesn't seem to let you Auto Attack during the animation/skill lock.

    2 Ninki in 1 Trick attack. Around 75k dmg in less than 10 secs on level 60 dummy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5W...ature=youtu.be
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    Last edited by Hesitate89; 06-21-2017 at 03:22 PM.

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    No more huton countdown!

    My absolute favorite change is the hide change. Now that is resets your ninjutsu timer, huton countdown macros are a thing of the past. I hated them. I might actually be maining this lol. Plus the changes to shadow fang etc are just icing on the cake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesitate89 View Post
    using Hellfrog on the same frame as auto attack.
    That seems like a nice trick to use in the mids of fights, specially if we have TCJ on CD.
    It seems hard to accommodate tho, given that we don't wanna risk wasting Ninki.

    From what I've noticed in the job abilities preview video, TCJ doesn't cancel auto-attacks, but they don't generate Ninki while TCJ is working.

    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    huton countdown macros are a thing of the past.
    Were they ever a thing D:?!
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    Hey folks.
    Do we got new statweights for ninja after 4.0 changes?

    Im keeping out eye for this but maybe i missed it somewere
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