Do AST really need this Buff?

[Cyrocco]

My biggest problem with the AST changes is that the discard ability got called Undraw. What is that. I still call Redraw Shuffle. stop this madness

Not sure if I referred to this in this thread or another, but since it's all Star/Fate based I'd go for Denial for "Undraw" and Alteration for "Redraw"

[Yamimarik]

Don't be such a white knight jeez.. "That doesnt help either" could care less tbh shoo.

And this is my final response to you, because you truly are trolling if you're going to "lolwhiteknight" and throw that term around. I even have said through out this thread that some of the buffs to AST were not warranted at all and didn't need to happen. So no, I'm not "White Knighting" you just want reactions from people, and despite you saying yay or nay, you just want what you want to be back on top, and bring everyone else down.

So done.

Obviously an actual debate and conversation is not possible with you.

[Heilstos]

My biggest problem with the AST changes is that the discard ability got called Undraw. What is that. I still call Redraw Shuffle. stop this madness

Heyho Elmays,

This Skill "Undraw" is only a QoL change for the PS4 user. The PC has an easy klick to turn off cards. On the PS4 its a bit harder I belive.
So you can use (Undraw) or klick the cards away till lvl 66. Than you have "Minor Arcana" -> Lord or Lady Card.

[Johaandr]

And just want what you want to be back on top, and bring everyone else down.

So done.

Obviously an actual debate and conversation is not possible with you.

Lmao.

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[Cyrocco]

Well you too sir. stop jumping into conclusion. Not everything has to be darn constructive. Don't like it? Ignore it.

Now you just sound like you're out of comebacks and admitting to posting in order to be a troll. This guy you're arguing with is crying for AST to get buffed more and more, but don't get frustrated. Most healers are on your side.

Look, I've made my thread, but here's my two cents on the topic.

Astrologian does not need much of what it's receiving in Stormblood. Astrologian would've been perfectly fine with the new skills, perhaps excluding what we're currently seeing from Earthly Star, and the values we currently have.

The only people lusting after the AST we're currently seeing in Stormblood are extremely AST loyalist.

Obviously an actual debate and conversation is not possible with you.

As for you, the fact that you're not willing to listen to the worries of the other two healer types proves you learned nothing from 3.0 AST. 4.0 Endgame is not the worry. We have months before that. You are lashing out because AST used to be weak. As an AST main, I can't stand for this "let the other healers drown" behavior.

[LadyKairi]

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They have even been saying what you have in regards to the AST buffs. They agree they weren't needed. But seriously though, it's not bad to not want ast to get nerfed into the ground and be back on the bottom. No one wants their preferred job to be complete garbage. There's plenty of WHMs who want their job to be top dog, and it's the same for the other jobs.

It's not fun to be the undesired job, especially when you raid. I know my raiding future is riding on how Astro performs with the other healers. I don't want it to be op as it has been, I just want it to not be garbage so I don't have to scholar again T_T

[Yamimarik]

As for you, the fact that you're not willing to listen to the worries of the other two healer types proves you learned nothing from 3.0 AST. 4.0 Endgame is not the worry. We have months before that. You are lashing out because AST used to be weak. As an AST main, I can't stand for this "let the other healers drown" behavior.

Please show me where I said that? Please? I'm pretty sure I even said they probably need to re-examine WHM so it's on par with both AST and SCH for 4.0 launch already in this thread. I also said AST doesn't need some of the buffs it's getting because AT THE MOMENT IN TIME we do not need them. BUT if content proves otherwise, since we really have no insight in endgame at all for 4.0... well who knows till we get there. Dungeons and open world is one thing, Savage, Ex, etc is another.

So please make sure you're reading my posts, because I never turned a blind eye to either healer, but personally WHM discussions have devolved into nothing but bad at the moment. So I try to avoid actual WHM topics. But I do agree something needs to be done to bring up the other healers to AST's level.

[rainblack]

There's plenty of WHMs who want their job to be top dog

We've pretty much given up on anything like that by now. Right now we just want to be able to cooperate in raids with ASTs and SCHs without getting kicked out for being useless.

[LadyKairi]

We've pretty much given up on anything like that by now. Right now we just want to be able to cooperate in raids with ASTs and SCHs without getting kicked out for being useless.

While you and others feel that way, I know plenty of white mages who want to see Astro get nerfed to the ground, because they aren't the best anymore. While I think we should all want our brother/sister healing jobs to be good an not useless, there are still those who just want to be the best and don't care for balance. It's a shame, but true.

[rainblack]

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That's fair. Honestly as an AST/WHM player I just want to see all the jobs get enough diversity that they can work together and build off each other's strengths rather than competing for who gets the best version of each other's mechanics. It's so weird to me that they've been homogenizing the healers so much instead of rewarding having each others' backs in a game built around cooperation and coordination.