Do AST really need this Buff?

[Ayer2015]

It's because they're a a freaking HYBRID JOB. It's supposed to be lower. It should NEVER replace a WHM. Nor come close to repalcing a SCH. with their Card system, it shouldn't be anywhere near powerful like a WHM or a SCH is. A hybrid job, is a hybrid for a reason.

I was one of the few people that felt AST was fine to play in 3.0. That said I remember all the complaint threads about MP issues and healing potency very clearly.
My position has been and will remain that AST should not have either regen or shields, but rather direct heals only plus the card system.

[VraeliaValkyria]

I was one of the few people that felt AST was fine to play in 3.0. That said I remember all the complaint threads about MP issues and healing potency very clearly.
My position has been and will remain that AST should not have either regen or shields, but rather direct heals only plus the card system.

Sounds legit. From this, I agree. For AST not to tread on other healer's jobs and all.

[LegoTechnic]

I was one of the few people that felt AST was fine to play in 3.0. That said I remember all the complaint threads about MP issues and healing potency very clearly.
My position has been and will remain that AST should not have either regen or shields, but rather direct heals only plus the card system.

It makes a lot of sense now, but the issue when the AST was first implemented was that the regens + shields was the base meta, and RNG damage buffs on their own aren't enough to entice a healer to choose a class without actual healing utility, especially when it plays like a WHM with an inability to have heals ticking while in cleric stance. Ideally I think they should have had either a new mechanic or a costly hybrid version similar to SCH's having Whispering Dawn, but a new mechanic may have been beyond the dev's creativity at that point in time.

Honestly I can't see having an AST as a straight healer with cards being effective unless the RNG was completely removed from the card draw mechanic to compensate, but that goes against the Yugi-Oh inspiration of the Draw mechanic. Thus the problem is figuring out what they could do that would be as viable as regens or shields without making their additional card benefits too OP, and the answer they come up with is "just let them do both".

[Mature]

Seems pretty crazy that people are using things like math and quoted design philosophy to draw conclusions!

This is where you all got it wrong. Every game has a tier list BUT it all depends how GOOD can you handle or make the class work. It's not about math or philosophy nonsense. If you are shit at your job NONE of these so called calculations will matter.

As IF you and all have the bloody AUDACITY to start asking for nerfs and buffs

What is wrong with you people...

[Kaurie]

This is where you all got it wrong. Every game has a tier list BUT it all depends how GOOD can you handle or make the class work. It's not about math or philosophy nonsense. If you are shit at your job NONE of these so called calculations will matter.

As IF you and all have the bloody AUDACITY to start asking for nerfs and buffs

What is wrong with you people...

Huh?

/10char

[VraeliaValkyria]

This is where you all got it wrong. Every game has a tier list BUT it all depends how GOOD can you handle or make the class work. It's not about math or philosophy nonsense. If you are shit at your job NONE of these so called calculations will matter.

As IF you and all have the bloody AUDACITY to start asking for nerfs and buffs

What is wrong with you people...

I don't know. What is wrong with you? Wanting AST to be the mega powerful healer, that surpasses both WHM and SCH. When both of these jobs are hitting the floor so harshly. Whereas AST is being raised on a pedestal. Tell me, how is this any fair? You're a 60 Arcanist. Certainly you can sympathize with our SCH/SMN cause. Even WHM's.

[FreakinRican]

Has anyone here actually played with these changes yet?

[RukiaFae]

Nope and if they did it wouldn't matter anyways because the potency/tool tips are subjected to change. People are bored and have nothing else do apparently.

[RukiaFae]

Yes I wish their heals were different. I like the way they went with the Lord and the Lady. I always though their cards should play into their healing kit and not just buff the party. I wished their heals played out this way. You have you buff cards and healing cards. You could have your basic heals plus cards that either shield or regen. This would probably be heck to balance but it would give AST their own niche. This would give it a more strategic playstyle IMO instead of being a copy.

[Cyrocco]

I'm sorry, but if the only argument for people to stop worrying about Stormblood changes is the "subject to change" line, then you really don't have much of an argument. The entire game is subject to change. It's all subject to change. They could delete Astrologian from existence and that would fit "subject to change," you people are like broken records.