Do AST really need this Buff?

[Ghishlain]

Someone who is more intune with game math please correct me if I am wrong but:

SCH shield is doubled when a crit happens. Doubling would equal 200% shield.
AST shields are 250% no matter what. 250>200 yes?

To through numbers out there: lets say I crit on SCH for 5500 heal. That gives the person I healed a 11k shield.
lets say I crit on AST for 5500 heal. That gives the person I healed a 13,750 shield.

So, now AST crit shields are also better than SCH shields who is supposed to be the "shielding" healer. Plus, AST shield is an instant cast.

Is my math wrong? If it isn't, than SE really needs to hire new people to do the number balancing. How can you give a healer who is supposed to be a substitute for either WHM or SCH all around better moves than the jobs they are supposed to be able to fill in for? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!

Your logic isn't wrong when you speak like you said, however for AST to heal the same as SCH on their shield spell, AST would need to be a higher gear level as they will need higher MD / MND / Det. In order to accurately gauge this properly you need to have assume the stats of both healers are the same. Then after that you need to determine the potency differences because the size of a shield is a function of the HP restored.

Adlo is a 300 potency heal and 300 potency shield.
A.Benefic is a 230 potency heal, there it provides a (230 * 2.5) = 575 potency shield.

When critting you get the following (assuming 1.5 multiplier oncrits)
Adlo = (300 * 1.5) = 450 potency heal so it generates a (450 * 2) = 900 potency shield
AB = (230 * 1.5) = 345 potency heal so it generates a (345 * 2.5) = 862 potency shield

[Yuyuka3]

As it stands, it'll be doing a swing from "weak and bad" to "waaay too powerful" forever, because the design is just flawed.

Know the worst thing about this? People explained this easy concept ever since AST was introduced, but Square is too deaf and blind to hear and see it.
We started out at the former, and now we are in the latter and sliding more and more into that because the devs don't know wtf they are even doing. And people still defend them, lol.

[Verdan]

Adlo is a 300 potency heal and 300 potency shield.
A.Benefic is a 230 potency heal, there it provides a (230 * 2.5) = 575 potency shield.

When critting you get the following (assuming 1.5 multiplier oncrits)
Adlo = (300 * 1.5) = 450 potency heal so it generates a (450 * 2) = 900 potency shield
AB = (230 * 1.5) = 345 potency heal so it generates a (345 * 2.5) = 862 potency shield

The ast outperforms the scholar on an instant cast heal unless the scholar crits.
At this point, the only way to retain your sanity if you're not an Ast is to pretend the Ast doesn't exist. The numbers are just wrong.

[Jonnycbad]

AST in Noct Stance has instant cures...but they don't have a Fairy pumping out free 250 potency cures on top of things. SCH can also crit a 7k shield and then apply it to the entire raid, AST cannot.

[ToasterMan]

Do you really think the Meta might be AST/AST? Its looking a lot worse for SCH than I thought

[Eloah]

AST in Noct Stance has instant cures...but they don't have a Fairy pumping out free 250 potency cures on top of things. SCH can also crit a 7k shield and then apply it to the entire raid, AST cannot.

Why does everyone jump to the fairy when they wanna say things like this, yes the fairy is an MP free HoT, but it can only be used on one person at a time, and has a range, its not connected to that person; and what happens with the new fairy skill once the player steps more than 10y away? but what a lot of people seem to forget is its not like we have the same kit as WHM or AST, our kit in timed gated heals and abilities that require strategy. The only AoE heal we can spam is Succor and that is only healing for 150 potency, and the cost is horrible. the only healing spell we can really cast is Physick, cause spamming Adlo is, well dumb in general, but it'll drain our MP, and we can only use Emergency Tactics every 30s; a lot can go wrong in less than 30s. The fairy, that everyone loves to point out we have, supplements our healing capabilities. Our Physick plus their Embrace acts like a Cure II/Benefic II. We never complained about MP costs because we understood why things were as they were, for Balance, We had great MP regeneration, so we needed higher spell costs. But now there is no balance, they lowered our regeneration and upped our MP costs. Thanks.

[Fernosaur]

It's funny cause SCH probably has the worst MP sustain of the game by a rather worring margin. I don't know if Chain Stratagem is going to be enough to keep it relevant, tbh.

[Amenako]

i totally agree with you, people never really understood how we had lower healing then the other two classes hence why our fairy was so important to us. it covers the healing margin that sch's need to be on par with the other healers. now with reduced embrace eos can't even do that for us anymore its sad also it seems like eos heals less frequently or im just imaging it because she barely heals for anything