This is just appalling

[SenorPatty]

Every time SE invests development money into creating assets that they put on the cash shop instead of into the game that you're already paying for, they're ripping us off of something we've already given them money for. So each time SE puts out an ad for "new optional items" to me it's the same as them saying to me "Here's something you've paid for but we're going to hold it hostage until you pay even more. Because we care about your money more than your enjoyment of our service." Which, of course they value our money; they're a company making a profit off of us. That's why it's important for us to start threads like this and tell them when they've crossed lines. Which they have.



Hi. Did you intend for this to make a point or did you just want to guess about how many f2p games I've played? It'd be more fun if you placed a bet before guessing.

When you say "having a cash shop of this extent damages the game", do you mean how:

-The game devs have fashioned parts of the game where one way or another, you will need to get your hands on cash shop items to successfully proceed?

-Not having these items put you at a deliberate disadvantage against other players?

-Being excluded from certain group content because your gear isn't up to standard because you did not partake of cash shop items? Which, in returns creates an actual divide between regular cs users and non-cs users?

-Game devs go actively out of their way to remove any form of acquiring in-game gold farming methods just to make sure no one can buy CS items from other players?

-Game devs making your QoL essential features out of your reach unless you dip your hand in CS?

SE has made its greed move, like any owner of a cash shop. The only difference is you can still go on about your business in the game without behind hindered by it.

[Twinsoul]

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Calm down, bucko. Last I checked, White Knight wasn't a job in this game. Self-funded or not, they're still impacting a service we're paying for. Considering how often Yoshi uses any and all kinds of data restrictions as an excuse, one would thing we'd pay a little bit of attention to what is and isn't being added to the game and who it's benefiting. It comes down to the fact that sub MMOs are a service and this one is being monetized additionally as a potentially endless series of products, and there are things being added to the cash shop that should be made available in the base game no matter where the funding to produce them comes from.

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Those are all great examples of things that bad f2p games do. But that's not the kind of game we're talking about, and it's not the kind of thing I'm getting at, so what you have is a nice collection of arguments against a point I'm not making. No real need for me to engage with them.

[SenorPatty]

Those are all great examples of things that bad f2p games do. But that's not the kind of game we're talking about, and it's not the kind of thing I'm getting at, so what you have is a nice collection of arguments against a point I'm not making. No real need for me to engage with them.

Then perhaps you could be clearer by what you mean about the cash shop damaging the game because so far, there's a lot of gasping at straws here about what's being added in the game as content and what isn't and how it somehow correlates strongly with the cash shop.