Summoner and the upcoming changes

[Vallhallix]

You're so negative in every posts of yours.
I actually find the "BUT BAHAMUT WAS IN MY FIELD OF VIEW, SO I COULDN'T SEE THE GROUND AOE FFS!" a pretty hilarious situation.

But whatever people say you're already convinced that SMN is dead.
Whatever man, time change your main or something.

SMN has literally died every patch it seems haha. Then a few weeks after a patch drops ''NERF SUMMONER'', ''HOW COME SMNS ARE DOING MORE DAMAGE THAN ME DID THEY NERF BLM''.

[Len]

Bahamut's Shockwave is the same animation Bahamut Prime used to auto-attack in T13, fyi.

..So further lazy animation recycling?

Our level 3 limit break Teraflare, Deathflare, Demi-Bahamut, Demi Bahamut's Enkindle are all hand-me-downs. I hope by 5.0 they've run out of things to recycle and actually get creative for once.

Just to correct you, the snot bubble thing was Tri-Disaster not Shockwave

I play Summoner. I know what Tri-Disaster is. This is what I'm referring to: Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood Summoner Gameplay

[Dyvid]

I play Summoner. I know what Tri-Disaster is. This is what I'm referring to: Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood Summoner Gameplay

That's fine but I'm telling that bubbly stuff isn't Bahamut. At best it's bio III: https://youtu.be/fSdfPXFGuw0?t=6m17s But seriously what do you want? A demi Bahamut makeover that would look more like Garuda Egi? The community, including you, has been asking for bigger better looking pets since 2.0 and now we have one. I can admit they could have chosen another skill since we have deathflare but I understand that Akh Morn was the OMG ability Bahamut Primal has. What would you rather see instead of Shockwave and Akh Morn?

[Len]

That's fine but I'm telling that bubbly stuff isn't Bahamut. At best it's bio III: https://youtu.be/fSdfPXFGuw0?t=6m17s

Yeah, I was referring to the white flash that Bahamut lets out. It literally looks like he sneezes every time we cast a spell. ..Oh, behold the might of Bahamut.

But seriously what do you want?

Surprise me! Add embellishments to what already existed. Change the colors. DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN COPY AND PASTE. Everything we get in Stormblood save for our DoT spells and Ruin is something we've seen already from past expansions.

[TristanBlane]

Not only from a gameplay perspective is spamming Ruin lame, but from a visual perspective, it's got all the oomph of tossing a pebble at our enemies..

This ^ I hate how Ruin looks ,its so boring. To have to use that a majority of the time is underwhelming. Though they get a lot of nice burst AOE moves with Death Flare and Bahamut. I'd just like a flashier move besides Ruin. :P

[AristocraticCorgi]

I haven't heard any of the top SMNs (people who actually raid with them and know the ins and outs of the class) expressing concern about the class.

I will wait until SB to formulate a proper opinion on the state of the job.

[ShaolinMike]

I haven't heard any of the top SMNs (people who actually raid with them and know the ins and outs of the class) expressing concern about the class.

I will wait until SB to formulate a proper opinion on the state of the job.

Hai Hai did. He basically said SMN will be fine:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Ly3yO2N9A/edit

[AristocraticCorgi]

Hai Hai did. He basically said SMN will be fine:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Ly3yO2N9A/edit

Adding to this. Yoshi P said recently that the build Mr. Happy and company played with was a month old build. I'm sure they have had time to adjust many, many things before and after we got to know about these changes.

[Dyvid]

Well in case people didn't know, this is what Ruin IV looks like: https://youtu.be/3_JxY2pRHn4?t=1m24s https://youtu.be/fSdfPXFGuw0?t=6m40s

Also there is a very minor variation between Deathflare and Akh Morn but not the huge: Deathflare Ahk Morn

My point as Summoners and a pet job, yes we are a pet job, our OMG spell is Demi-Bahamut much like PLD got Passage of Arms, AST got Earthly Star, and so on. Now i won't be opposed to changing Ahk Morn to something like Teraflare or something along those lines but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Over all I'm still happy with the design path in 4.0 compared to my complete dissatisfaction with 3.0 design path. Minor tweaks here in there but happy.

[Iromi]

I dont know if anyone realizes but it was confirmed that the build that was previewed was from late April and many changes since have been made.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...lily_with_100/

I am taking all of this with a grain of salt..lol. I think Summoner will be fine.