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    Player
    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Also there is a very minor variation between Deathflare and Akh Morn but not the huge: Deathflare Ahk Morn
    I made a side-to-side comparison.
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I dont know if anyone realizes but it was confirmed that the build that was previewed was from late April and many changes since have been made.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...lily_with_100/

    I am taking all of this with a grain of salt..lol. I think Summoner will be fine.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I dont know if anyone realizes but it was confirmed that the build that was previewed was from late April and many changes since have been made.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...lily_with_100/

    I am taking all of this with a grain of salt..lol. I think Summoner will be fine.
    One week to go until preliminary patch notes. It's looks like it's going to be a very long week lol
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    Len Orlan
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I dont know if anyone realizes but it was confirmed that the build that was previewed was from late April and many changes since have been made.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...lily_with_100/

    I am taking all of this with a grain of salt..lol. I think Summoner will be fine.
    "The build was old" sounds like PR damage control after the uproar over White Mage.

    I find it hard to believe the changes from April → release will be that profound, although I'd love to. Otherwise, why show the original build at all..?

    I guess we'll just have to see in four days.
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    Tansy Potato
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    Hyperion
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    I almost cried when I saw that Shadowflare is now a cooldown. Do they realize how often we have to recast that because the mob moves?? I can handle almost every change except for this. It SHOULD NOT be a cooldown.
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by tansypotato View Post
    I almost cried when I saw that Shadowflare is now a cooldown. Do they realize how often we have to recast that because the mob moves?? I can handle almost every change except for this. It SHOULD NOT be a cooldown.
    If you have to move your Shadowflare all the time, then don't even put it up. It's a mana waste and a GDC waste.
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    Eldyria Valdori
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I do not mind the changes to Shadow Flare, instant cast OGCD, no MP cost, it only lasts 15s from what we've seen in Mrhappy's video.
    Overall from information we've gotten even if it's outdated from a older build, if summoner works the way I think it will work, we're dealing with alot less DoT management but more ruin weaving and buildup to bursts.
    Being able to maintaint DoT's for 90s using only Tri-disaster? I'll take it.

    Interesting thing I noticed in MrHappy's video, during the time we got Bahamut out, the Aetherflow gauge is not locked, makes me wonder if it's worth blowing through as many skills as possible instead of spreading them out like we'd do normally. Also Bahamut seems to use a shockwave when you use Aetherflow itself.
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by YakushiHinata View Post
    I do not mind the changes to Shadow Flare, instant cast OGCD, no MP cost, it only lasts 15s from what we've seen in Mrhappy's video.
    Overall from information we've gotten even if it's outdated from a older build, if summoner works the way I think it will work, we're dealing with alot less DoT management but more ruin weaving and buildup to bursts.
    Being able to maintaint DoT's for 90s using only Tri-disaster? I'll take it.

    Interesting thing I noticed in MrHappy's video, during the time we got Bahamut out, the Aetherflow gauge is not locked, makes me wonder if it's worth blowing through as many skills as possible instead of spreading them out like we'd do normally. Also Bahamut seems to use a shockwave when you use Aetherflow itself.
    Looked like Aetherflow is locked during DWT but not during Bahamut summons.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Indeed the first few month will be like a Beta-Test not just for Smns but for all Cls'. There will be balancing patches for nearly every cls later on - people will find exploits like the egi/fairy "bugs" for 100% uptime - devs cant test things like we can as a comm with more than what, 1mio (?) members... we just have to try things out - real balance can't be set with the release, that's utopia : O
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    Kro Lex
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    Indeed the first few month will be like a Beta-Test not just for Smns but for all Cls'. There will be balancing patches for nearly every cls later on - people will find exploits like the egi/fairy "bugs" for 100% uptime - devs cant test things like we can as a comm with more than what, 1mio (?) members... we just have to try things out - real balance can't be set with the release, that's utopia : O
    SEQ takes forever to do balance changes, and this goes back all the way to ARR. Though they always seem to pay close attention to BLM since I guess it's yoshi main.
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