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    Semmi's Avatar
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    Rebecca Serenade
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Did anybody at the media events ever bother to try using Physick as a Summoner? For all we know it could scale with int for us now, since Red Mages have their own similar heal now that scales off int, and they had to rework Arcanist skills for Scholars anyways. Losing Sustain won't be a big deal as long as we can use Physick with appropriate scaling.
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    ShariusTC's Avatar
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Semmi View Post
    Did anybody at the media events ever bother to try using Physick as a Summoner? For all we know it could scale with int for us now, since Red Mages have their own similar heal now that scales off int, and they had to rework Arcanist skills for Scholars anyways. Losing Sustain won't be a big deal as long as we can use Physick with appropriate scaling.
    most of preview media who did smn, don't main smn so they overlook it, but i think physick will have more use in SB now since they drop subtain, and if you want to do any solo job you have to use it to cure you pet, unless titan somehow will be remake and have his own healing skill
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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    So basically if we whiff a Bane or Fester a target right after they go invulnerable, we get to spend the next two minutes with no Bahamut and our thumbs up our a$$es.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    summoner have to know fight pretty well if you wanna use that 2 tri disaster rotatio every other minute because some mechanics can totally mess up that option. Your stacks can be delayed and the worst part is that you can not use aetherflow before you have used your bahamut stacks and full duration of dreadwyrm stance(if you dont cancel it instantly with deathflare).
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    Kamui_Argent's Avatar
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    Kamui Custom
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycofang View Post
    People keep saying summoners dot damage got hurt by 30% because of 1 missing dot but thats not entirely correct at all.

    Bio 40 pot 18s 1 tick of damager per 3s

    18÷3 is 6 40x 6 ticks is 240total potency

    Miasma is 35 potency and 24s. 24÷3 is 8

    35 *8 = 280 potency

    Bio 2 is 40p for 30s so 40*10s = 400

    240+280+400= 920

    New 2 dots total to 800 potency total which is 86.9 or 87% of the total potency of old dots. Its a 13% loss which is HEAVILY combatted by :

    Tri disasters ruin buff

    DTs damage buff

    Bahamuts double enkindles

    Pet actions reduce enkindle by -10s recast per said action

    Ruin 3 can upgrade to ruin 4 through pet actions.

    Your aoe got nerfed to a degree which im positive is a mis trans and its probably capping at 40% DR.


    TL;DR- you do equivalent if not MORE damage now.
    Thank you!
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Just some quality of life changes for 4.0 that I would like to see for Egi.

    *Since Sustain was remove could you add an additional effect onto Physick that would help heals our pets. Example: Additional Effect: Continuously restores 8% of summon's HP for 10s.

    *Consider lowering the cast timer of Summon 1, 2, and 3 to 2.5 seconds

    *Increasing the range of Radiant Shields to 30 Yalms. Reasoning being is it seems like when we fight Super Sized Monster, Nidhogg, the tank is just out off range and doesn't gain the buff.

    *Add a provoke additional effect to Summon 2 to get enmity quickly.
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    Len's Avatar
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    Len Orlan
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Not only from a gameplay perspective is spamming Ruin lame, but from a visual perspective, it's got all the oomph of tossing a pebble at our enemies.

    Ruin IV isn't much more impactful, especially when you look at what other casters are churning out. And then they have the nerve to recycle the spell effect of Ahk Morn as being both Deathflare and Demi Bahamut's enkindle.
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I can understand people ragging on the regular ruin 1 and 2 which are boring, but that's petty just like regular fires are boring, but Ruin III/IV are visually stunning both graphically and animation-wise.

    From a spell standpoint, I don't think Smns can really complain. Yeah blm uses lots of explosions, but that's literally all they do, it's the same spell casting animation the same raising hands to the air for the big ones, never changes. SMN literally floats into the air as if being dragged, and then launches again in the air as he uses deathflare which is arguably if not the most satisfying ability to use as a caster. It's also literally the biggest spell of all the casters, you can see the dang thing all the way in the heavens lol. The only other spell with an animation that lifts the caster off the ground is holy. Then on top of that you get the most graphically impressive and biggest resource hogging spell in the game; Bahamut.

    So SMNs can't complain about not being sexy.
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Len View Post
    Not only from a gameplay perspective is spamming Ruin lame, but from a visual perspective, it's got all the oomph of tossing a pebble at our enemies.

    Ruin IV isn't much more impactful, especially when you look at what other casters are churning out. And then they have the nerve to recycle the spell effect of Ahk Morn as being both Deathflare and Demi Bahamut's enkindle.
    I do agree about Ahk morn, it should be different, at the very least a different color, but then again it makes sense lore-wise for it to be the same. If anyone listened to the story during the SMN questline, they are literally able to invoke the very abilities of the primals, when SMN uses deathflare, that is in essence drawing from Bahamuts power, it's not some sort of smn specific skill he is using Bahamuts power not a counterfeit version, so it makes sense that it would look the same.
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    Len Orlan
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallhallix View Post
    I do agree about Ahk morn, it should be different, at the very least a different color, but then again it makes sense lore-wise for it to be the same. If anyone listened to the story during the SMN questline, they are literally able to invoke the very abilities of the primals, when SMN uses deathflare, that is in essence drawing from Bahamuts power, it's not some sort of smn specific skill he is using Bahamuts power not a counterfeit version, so it makes sense that it would look the same.
    ..Now come up with an excuse as to why Demi-Bahamut's "Shockwave" is practically non-existant. He basically blows a snot bubble at the enemy and kicks up a little dust. Blink and you'll miss it.

    THAT is the grand reward for something you'll only be able to bring out every two minutes?! It's garbage.
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