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  1. #471
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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Did anyone notice weapon skills and autoattacks in Presence of Mind? Have those always been mentioned? Are we supposed to melee now? lol
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  2. #472
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    Javid Conlak
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    This is a lot.....

    New Shroud is an MP upgrade for us WHMs by 2 more ticks!
    E4E didnt change at all..well technically it changed for WHM and AST; So for SCH it didnt change at all......
    THEY F**&k ussss with the new Divine... we lost 10% and added 30 sec to the recast loool

    still editing

    Secret of the lilly is cool. but the tooltip is still unclear on its actual implementation... Does the execution buffs work exactly like Spear from AST works?? Where by the bonus isn't applied on the current recast timers but the subsequent recast timers??? Or does the execution of the lilies retroactively reduce the recast timers of all the affect abilities( the latter would be MUUUUCH MORE OP AND RELEVANT ). And 20% chance...... is very low for a skill we won't be spamming unless we're some scrub causal peppering tanks and party members with wasted gcds.....UNLESS they make it a more healing gcd mech demanding content ( I would like that!!!).
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    Last edited by javid; 06-01-2017 at 12:00 AM.

  3. #473
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    Yorumi's Avatar
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    I think it's pretty safe to say SE hates whm.
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  4. #474
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    You build the Lilies with Cure and Cure 2. When you use a skill the lilies effect it lowers the recast timer of the ability used depending on the amount of lilies you have built up and consumes the lilies. Pretty straight forward. A lot of the new WHM mechanics require WHM to be casting heal a lot to benefit from them.
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  5. #475
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    Slaine_Fray's Avatar
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    Slaine Fray
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    This is a lot.....

    Secret of the lilly is cool but the tooltip is still unclear on its actual implementation... Does the execution buffs work exactly like Spear from AST works?? Where by the bonus isn't applied on the current recast timers but the subsequent recast timers??? Or does the execution of the lilies retroactively reduce the recast timers of all the affect abilities( the latter would be MUUUUCH MORE OP AND RELEVANT )
    "The recast reduction is 4% for one lily, 10% for two and 20% for three. So, for example, building up three lilies and using Tetragrammaton would reduce the cooldown (recast timer) of it by 20%, from 60 seconds to 48. This would basically add one extra Tetragrammaton per 5 minutes."

    Would assume it's based on the Lillies as you use the ability. Above scenario would mean max Lillies every time Tetra comes off CD, so you wouldn't be able to reduce the CD from 48 seconds.
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    Last edited by Slaine_Fray; 05-31-2017 at 11:46 PM.

  6. #476
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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Slaine_Fray View Post
    "The recast reduction is 4% for one lily, 10% for two and 20% for three. So, for example, building up three lilies and using Tetragrammaton would reduce the cooldown (recast timer) of it by 20%, from 60 seconds to 48. This would basically add one extra Tetragrammaton per 5 minutes."

    Would assume it's based on the Lillies as you use the ability. Above scenario would mean max Lillies every time Tetra comes off CD.
    And we're supposed to need all the healing that after casting enough cure I and II for 3 lillies with a 20% chance to gain one?
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  7. #477
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Here's an example of how they work, Let's say you have 3 lilies. WHen you use assize, instead of 90 sec cd, it becomes 72 seconds. There is also the trait at lvl 68 where if you store a crit cure 1 or cure 2, 20 percent of the time the cooldowns of assize and asylum are reduced by a flat 5 seconds. However when you use the skill, it eats up all lilies immediately, so it can't be used in rapid succession. Also there is the fact you need to use cure 1 and cure 2 to get a lily and those are proc-based too.
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  8. #478
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    Slaine Fray
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    And we're supposed to need all the healing that after casting enough cure I and II for 3 lillies with a 20% chance to gain one?
    Yup, the limitation to having to spam Cure 1 & 2 for everything will hurt WHM
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  9. #479
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    You literally need to be spamming cure and cure 2 to benefit from a lot of the new skills and mechanics. The lvl 70 heal is dependent on stacks of confession that only cure or cure 2 can put on allies.
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  10. #480
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    DreamWeaver's Avatar
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    https://youtu.be/mW7R7QM5X18?t=9m51s

    check this out, Diurnal now gives 15% additional healing potency.

    The kicker is they haven't even bloody adjust the MP cost of their healing spells, at lv 70 Benefic cost 480 MP, Cure and Physick cost 600 MP, and Benefic now heals 15% more due to the sect.

    SE what the heck happened to you?
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