This is just appalling

[Nix]

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Oh my gosh, I had never thought of that! Thank you for showing us the way. <sarcasm>

[Natashio]

Half the price of an official expansion for a robe and skirt.

Kek.

...and you will buy it.

btw...+1'ing myself.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

Oh my gosh, I had never thought of that! Thank you for showing us the way. <sarcasm>

Clearly most people need to be shown the way. We don't need a damn thread everytime a new Mog Station item comes out. Yes we get you don't like it. No it's not going anywhere. Yes people will continue to buy stuff from it. No your complaining, as a vocal minority, won't change a thing.

[Nix]

shloop

It may~ But I'd appreciate it it the argument in favor of the cash shop items being so expensive was something more constructive than "OMG JUST DON'T BUY IT."

I understand that the cash shop is here to stay, and that's cool - but for me and many others, the value just isn't there. If they put things at fair prices (we're not asking for freebies or handouts) then we'd be more inclined to buy from them... And I think that's a point that a lot of people are missing.
We understand that it takes work, manpower, and even skill to put these items together. That being said that there's a line that's kinda being crossed in how things are priced, especially when compared to other successful MMOs on the market that have cash shops... (Not to mention those that rely on cash shops as a means of revenue as they don't have subs yet still offer cheaper items... <_>)

What would you say if SE started offering a 2-piece clothing bundle for $30? $50? "It's okay, they can charge what they want!" Would you still buy it, even though at $50 that's 5 months sub? Where is the line drawn for you, I'm curious.

The forums are here to provide feedback (another thing that people seem to forget, and want to brush everything off as 'needless complaining'), so that means on occasion we have to air out some negative stuff. How else are the staff going to understand how we feel on certain topics? I haven't developed telepathy yet sadly, god that'd make my life easier.

If you don't like these threads, you don't need to read them; they're going to exist whether we want them to or not. (neat how that argument works)

[ZhaneX]

The Delightfully Descriptive Drama of Dan the Doodler

Fair point of course, but there's nothing wrong with saying why you might be a "Fredric the Frugal". The idea of this forum is to give feedback, yes?

Voting with their wallets may be the most important thing (however ineffectual in the face of a less pensive market), but they still have every right to express their opinion; even if it does come across as just ineffectual complaining to some.

[Greedalox]

It may~ But I'd appreciate it it the arguments for the cash shop items being so expensive was something more constructive than "OMG JUST DON'T BUY IT."

I understand that the cash shop is here to stay, and that's cool - but for me and many others, the value just isn't there.

These 2 points seem to be contradictory. If it's understood that the cash shop is here to stay, but you don't see the value- why do you need more of a reason than just "don't buy it". Would an essay convince you otherwise? Would people showing you numbers, sharing anecdotes and all that jazz ever possibly make you an avid enjoyed spender at the cash shop? If you're not looking to change your mind, why do you need more than your own prerogative?

[Nix]

schweeoop

Sorry, maybe I should reword this a bit

Cash shop here to stay = awesome
Items at a decent price = awesome
Overly priced items = not so awesome

$25 for a mount is fair enough, $15 for a full set of attire + hairstyle = rock on

$18 for two pieces of clothing? That's a little steep considering you're getting maybe 40% of what the $15 bundle offered.

I don't mind the cash shop being there, I've also made a few purchases from it, but at the same time I'm also a stickler about getting good value for money. I'm not hurting for cash in the slightest, but I'm also not frivolous with my spending so I look at prices and decide if it's truly worth it to me.

The point of my post isn't to be convinced (or not) to buy things from the cash shop, I've got that covered. I'd be MORE inclined to spend money there if I was getting decent value for my $, but I'm not with that set. I think that's what's irking most people - compared to a lot of MMOs on the market (sub free ones at that), the items are almost 2x the price, with more restrictions (such as single character instead of account).

Would be nice of SE to kinda rethink their pricing on stuff, they might make more sales, but alas... I'm in medical and not accounting~

tl;dr (and terrible analogy) - you can buy a cake for $15, or half a cake for $20. woop.

[Orbiaus]

Well this is the issue with cash shops. It tends to get out of hand with items and price. Best thing to do is not buy it and if you want glamours try and post about wanting them in game rather than cash shop.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

...and you will buy it.

btw...+1'ing myself.

I am helpless before your wit.

[ColorOfSakura]

I have to add my voice here - I am someone who has bought most of the unique items added to the MogStation (i.e. - weren't in a previous event) - I have absolutely no issue with cash shop items or purchasing them. I have all the optional mounts, I have a lot of the optional clothing, I've bought several Fantasias over the course of my playtime, and I plan to buy a Job Potion when they're introduced to level up an RP alt so I can unlock Red Mage on her. I do not have issues with cash shop items or anything like that.

What I have an issue with is when optional items are priced beyond what is fair or acceptable. Square has generally been very good about this - $24 for mounts makes sense (even $12 for single character mounts is fine). $15 for a special NPC attire set and unique hairstyle? Also fine.

$18 for a gear set that was released as event gear on one of the Asian servers? I'm way less okay with that. That is asking players to pay more than a monthly subscription to the game for two pieces of Level 1 attire. That's ridiculous and beyond overpriced. And I know the counterargument is "If you don't like it, don't buy it." And for the most part, I totally subscribe to that mentality - but at the same time, at some point people have to actually voice their opinions on things that are a problem. This is a problem because it now does indeed feel like MogStation prices are slowly climbing for attire because people are willing to buy more and more expensive stuff. People have a right to put their foot down and go "Wait a second, this isn't okay."

And that's where I stand with this decision - its too expensive for such a small set of items. I want SE to know that as someone who is more than happy to support their cash shop that I think they're starting to maybe push it juuuust a little bit too much.