This is just appalling

[Mindiori]

I don't know what everyone's situation is like but the price points of these things tend to settle around metric data. People have stated this in various ways already.

The pay to play model isn't exactly popular as it is. Personally I barely notice the cost and find the price of the additional items trivial. If not utterly meaningless. As im sure would anyone on an average city income. Point being, perspectives are different.

Knowing what the cash shop funding is put towards and considering the items are optional, I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. So they may not be available in game sure. But realize that if they were - people wouldn't buy them. Thus the cash shop wouldn't be generating the additional income they aim for. You may feel like the sub generates enough. I imagine however, that in these times (and with so few flocking to the sub models vs other games) that it does not. If you truly have the best interests of the game at heart, at least approach the subject with less of a 'me, me, me' point of view.

[ErikMynhier]

UGH, I already bowed out of this conversation! :P

Do you have any good examples? I can only really think of WoW, PlayStation Plus, Netflix, Hulu, Funimation, Crunchyroll, Microsoft Office, Magazine subscriptions. Of those, only WoW offers microtransactions.

UGH! We're not all talking to you! Its not all about you!

Note that Hulu offers Showtime access for an added fee.

[Nix]

I came back to the game after a long hiatus recently, and I'm kinda iffy on the cash shop situation.

Don't get me wrong - it's not a question of not being able to afford it; I am fortunate that I have a well paying job and could spring for cash shop stuff if I wanted to purchase it.

The question is one of principle... It seems like SE is starting to bump up the price on things but decrease value. Take Y'shtola's modish attire for example; it's $15 on cash shop right now iirc, but you get boots, pants, jacket, hair etc; then there's the new fuga attire which is $18 for a jacket and pants.

I could see $10 being a fair price for this, but $18 is just a bit crazy.

I've seen people try to counter our arguments with things like "You just want things for free!" and this isn't the case; we want value for money, and to not feel like we're being nickel and dimed.
I also get that cash shop purchases are entirely optional, I don't think anyone has ever said that they are mandatory; that being said, we're still within our right to say "Hey guys, don't you think you can dial it back just a tad?"

Note: I understand the OP and I too feel the outfits are overpriced. Welcome to the new age of gaming (I miss the old days were there are no DLCs or PreOrders) sigh~

No kidding- It feels like I bought the hamburger, but now I feel like they're making us pay again for the fixings to go on it

[Teppie]

For me I make a pretty healthy amount of money IRL, but I'm also a dumbass who spends my way into the poor house on stupid stuff like cash shop goodies. I wouldn't mind it being free, but if I wasn't buying this I'd be buying something else.

[HPDelron]

I could see $10 being a fair price for this, but $18 is just a bit crazy.

Dan the Doodler draws doodles.
He goes to market and draws his doodles for people want them
He charges $5 for a doodle.
He sells doodles all day long, one after another.
The next day he goes to market again
He charges $10 for his doodles.
He sells doodles all day long, one after another
The next day he goes to the market again
He charges $15 for his doodles.
He sells doodles all day long, one after another.
Fredric the frugal walks up and says
"Dan the doodler. $15 is too much for a doodle. It is not a fair price that people should have to pay for one your doodles"
As Fredric the frugal talks, another customer comes up and pays $15 for one of the dan the doodler's doodles.
Dan the doodler leaves.
The next day he goes to market again
He charges $20 for his doodles.
He sells doodles all day long, one after the another
Fredric the frugal approaches him and says "This has become far too much. $15 was too much for a doodle, but $20 is plainly unfair! Absurd! Dishonest! Shady! Corrupt!"
As Fredric the frugal talks, another customer up and pays $20 for one of dan the doodler's doodles.
Dan the doodler leaves.
The next day he goes to market again
He charges $25 for his doodles.
He sells doodles all day long, one after another.
Fredric the Frugal approaches yet again and says "Dan why do you not listen to me! These doodles are too expensive! They are not worth what you charge and you are being very unfair!"
Another customer approaches and says "I would like one doodle please, here is your $25"
Dan the doodler turns to Fredric the Frugal and says "I do not listen to you because I like what he says better" as he hands his customer a doodle.

[Rilasha]

Everyone makes good points but the point is that Square is a business first and foremost and they decided that they can make a profit by selling things in a cash shop. These cash shop items are optional and don't affect core gameplay in any way, they are just for show.

I'm pretty sure that they would have carefully calculated an algorithm that determines the price that they set these items at. There's going to be a smooth spot that makes the most money possible. Why price something lower with more people buying it when you earn less than what you could get if you price higher but less people buy it? That makes no logical sense in terms of business to sell it at a lower price that gets you less profit.

It just happens that there are enough people are willing to buy it at the current rate that it doesn't matter that they're selling less. It is digital goods after all, they don't run out of those. Physical stores have stock and would like to sell them all.

As for me, I have no interest in them, so I won't buy it like I did the play dead emote (which I use all the time).
My friend bought it because he's a sucker for that style and has more money than I do.

[Nix]

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I get what you're saying, and you could have said it in far fewer words! haha
Still both points are valid: SE will charge what they want, and I (along with some others) will still think that the price tag does not match the product.

As a quick edit; I don't think it'd bother me them selling the stuff at this price if it didn't feel like they were taking a step backward - there's other outfit packages that they are selling that come with much more, and even a hairstyle for less than what they are charging now for the fuga attire.

[SagaSoluna]

I have been debating between participating in this thread and not participating for a couple of days, because what i have to say may very well leave many people traumatized and in need of medical assistance.

Finally, after losing a bet and forced to act against my better judgment, i feel obligated to share my revolutionary idea with you all, cursed be all consequences.

Well, here it goes:

If you do not like the costume or think it´s overpriced:
Do not buy it

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

Half the price of an official expansion for a robe and skirt.

Kek.

[Lunaxia]

I have been debating between participating in this thread and not participating for a couple of days

...I made it this afternoon.