PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

[Taika]

That illustrates the problem that people are imagining (healers watching netflix or other utterly ridiculous notions of being lazy.)

People who are talking about kicking healers are talking about healers who are literally idle, jumping or /dancing or /follow on tank. Healers like this:

Notice how the arguments about "hurr hurr, healer doesn't dps, kick em" tend to align with people don't even play the healer class, it's mainly tanks saying this.

It's hard to say anything about which jobs people play based on their forum accounts, but I can say I've been a healer main in this game in 1.0.

If DPS people are saying this, then they should be the one who is kicked, because that comes across as a demand to be carried. If a tank says it, it's saying that the tank doesn't believe the DPS are competent.

This has been said a billion times, but no one is asking healers to DPS to cover for DDs. People are asking healers to DPS because otherwise (apart from specific situations, of course) healers are being much less active than their party members, and that's not fair.

Making entitled demands of PUG's is just arrogant.

It's not entitled to ask for your party members to participate in an equal manner. And the exact same thing (trying to be as active as possible in a meaningful way) is asked from every single party member. The difference is, healer players tend to be the only ones that try to argue why it would be ok to leave a vital part of their toolkit unused. You don't see any "I'm a BRD but I shouldn't be asked to sing/DPS" threads here.