Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
So when they say something like that they don't feel challenged enough with even that, then probably this isn't the game they are looking for. :/
That was the whole point of Cleric Stance it was that fine line when to DPS and when to heal that was the challenge and reward for good healers. Healers still need to contribute to DPSing as it is built into the game, even with Cleric being gone as a stance it exists as a buff, meaning that they have to carefully use that in conjunction with healing to maximize their role. Just because the ability is gone doesn't mean healers can't be lazy and sit there doing nothing, they should challenge themselves in content that requires everything from healers this includes Savage/EX Primals/Experts.

The problem really boils down to do they want to even push themselves? Because as it stands you can literally DPS as a healer with a fairy or regen and never leave Cleric Stance, most of the community doesn't want to do anything extra or take criticism because it's "their" time and "their" sub when in actuality it's a group effort in DF.