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  1. #1271
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    The problem isn't really the ping, it's the net-code of FFXIV that waits for a server permission before allowing you to use an ability, adding a harmful ping-tax to those with high pings, anyone with a ping below ~250ms could have the same responsiveness that someone with a ping of 10ms if SE was willing to make modifications to their net-code.

    It's possible to have no DPS loss, a fully responsive game, etc. with high pings, but it requires modifications in the game. Instead of complaining about the new location of the Datacenter, it's more wise I think, to push SE to make adjustments into the game, so that locations doesn't matter in the end, as long as you have a ping below 250ms.
    There a new topic about how net-code could fix the ping issue, I encourage you to go there and testify about how the game feels now unresponsive, how you lost DPS, etc. :

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...es-Irrelevant!
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  2. #1272
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    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post
    Hmm, my suspicion was that this was the case. You may be interested in reading this tumblr post, which is about a certain thing that was made to counteract this problem of server validation and ping tax, but for a different MMO.
    I spent an hour to read it entirely, thank a lot YitharV2 for the link, this was very instructive, and it confirms everything I was suspecting about how FFXIV net-code is behaving. And it shows that indeed it's possible to get a smooth responsive game and no DPS loss with high pings by changing how the net-code works. The workaround discussed in that link, is smart, and could be avoided if devs were willing to make some changes.
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  3. #1273
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    but....but....people were ok when i had 20% packet loss, why are they mad now that i have 0% packet loss? did...did i do something? O=
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    you get a like for asking for it in a reasonable manner! =D Do hope they figure out something for SA players though, imo those are the ones affected the most cuz of the overall baseline routing for those countries.(since their routing isn't above grounds its across the sea to the east coast)
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  5. #1275
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    i was upset too that EU players on NA servers didn't get a free transfer, and i am not even playing on an NA server xD

    however, i guess they don't bring free transfers now, because they want to offer free transfers to lesser populated worlds with 4.0 and even open some new worlds in the EU data center:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...2360440abe9651

    so there will be free transfers... soon...

    bringing free transfers now would be counter-productive against their plan to lead people to lesser populated worlds in 4.0. so not the best deal if you want to play on a high populated world, but at least it's free. they even want to refund your house (only if you own one, of course), and you can bring way more Gil with you than before (but still not enough i guess).
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    Last edited by Tint; 05-18-2017 at 09:27 PM.

  6. #1276
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    [...] you only have 2 choice, get used to it or quit. [...]
    Or more wisely and constructive, ask for a better net-code that could solve DPS problems with high pings:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...es-Irrelevant!
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  7. #1277
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    The privilege to play more than 4 jobs. All the aussies I know only play tanks and drg because they're the only jobs they can play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    then you guys should continue showing SE how bad was their decision until they do something!
    I've wondered if its less of not wanting to do something instead of just flat out can't do anything. SE needed to pick a location where they were able to expand servers as needed. SE is also really super small here in terms of online gaming with FFXI and FFXIV as their only real online games. I've wondered if they couldn't pick a central location due to the prime central areas already long bought by companies like Blizzard, NCSoft and others with more of an extensive catalogue of popular online games. No doubt with thoughts of expanding server banks due to current and future release games in their minds.
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  9. #1279
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    No they didn't. I live on the east coast and my ping is fine. Most likely your ISP is to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Len View Post
    Are you even from North America?

    If not, your voice on where servers designated from a region you're not even a part of counts for nothing. Be thankful that you have the privilege to even play on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by dlgc View Post
    I sincerely hope your reply was meant as a joke.

    Cheers,
    D.
    I bet Len is a Trump fanboy... "america ONLY, america ONLY"... And he seems to forget that a lot of american ppl work and live abroad. What about them? Lost their "privilege" to play on NA servers too?
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