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[Ayerinn]

I feel so bad for our European friends who play on the NA datacenters T_T I know a few of them...feel so bad *hugs them all*
Hope it's not so bad for us in the east coast...

I feel bad for them too BUT SE can only do so much - the gave them their own "native" datacenter 2 years ago...if they chose not to move then that was their choice and this was a future risk they were taking. Montreal was more "central" for EU/NA when there was no EU datacenter. I bet the thinking was:

ARR: EU/NA datacenter in "central" location aka Montreal
HW: EU datacenter created to better accommodate EU players, NA datacenter stays put for now to see how it works out
SB: NA datacenter moved to west coast of US which is more "central" for NA+NZ/AUS players

I do think people should be able to do a one time free transfer though with all their gil/items (but not FC, houses, etc unfortunately) to the EU datacenter.

[Apoptomon]

As an OCE player 10,000 miles from Primal's original location in Montreal, I can certainly understand EU player concerns about the server move, but I have to ask, what's with the jumping to panic stations from NA people? Is US infrastructure really 4th-world?!

I guess you could always try out one of those VPN things if it's too high.

[ErryK]

"Neighboring country" is playing it down a tad.

But it isn't, because that's what it is, lol. Are you telling me the US is in an entire different continent to Canada?

It's absolutely not a similar ballpark, using Cloudping from Doha, Qatar:

• Pinging Virginia gave me 210ms
• Pinging Ohio gave me 204ms
• Pinging California gave me 243ms
• Pinging Oregon gave me 246ms
• Pinging London gave me 132ms
• Pinging Frankfurt gave me 136ms

You can see, at most, it's a difference of 30-40ms between east coast and west coast, meanwhile pinging the EU locations is about a 100ms difference. Unless you're telling me I failed math and 30ms is actually bigger than 100ms.

[Lokryn]

As an OCE player 10,000 miles from Primal's original location in Montreal, I can certainly understand EU player concerns about the server move, but I have to ask, what's with the jumping to panic stations from NA people? Is US infrastructure really 4th-world?!

I guess you could always try out one of those VPN things if it's too high.

Because folks don't understand how networks work anymore, Distance is a part, but like 1/5 of the factors, Shitty routing and packet loss plays so much more into lag then distances nowadays.

[Ama_Hamada]

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with the "built in lag" to "make it playable" for 200-220 ms this has me worried:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4129332

Because folks don't understand how networks work anymore, Distance is a part, but like 1/5 of the factors, Shitty routing and packet loss plays so much more into lag then distances nowadays.

That is what I am worried about, doesn't the routing appear worse?

[Texa]

Is US infrastructure really 4th-world?!

If you don't live in a big metro area, yes. Doubly so if you're in out in the sticks in a place that gets really bad snow in the winter.

[Lokryn]

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with the "built in lag" to "make it playable" for 200-220 ms this has me worried:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4129332

This kinda ping is still well within the norms for 80% of online gaming, if going from 30ms to 100ms gets you killed, its more you then the lag. Just being honest.

[Ama_Hamada]

This kinda ping is still well within the norms for 80% of online gaming, if going from 30ms to 100ms gets you killed, its more you then the lag. Just being honest.

Uh no, missing out of a chain when I killed something 2 second to go is not me. Having bio not transfer because I hit bane too fast is not me. Having lustrate go on CD/ aether use but not heal anything is not me. Having deathflare start the animation but not go off is not me. Spinting before a melee LB is used, then get hit by it while behind a wall + 5 miles away from it, is not me.

That post was to show I get "unplayable" lag @50 ms or so (that test thingy to the game itself while playing it) When countless things "fail" because of latency issues I define as unplayable.

[Lokryn]

Uh no, missing out of a chain when I killed something 2 second to go is not me. Having bio not transfer because I hit bane too fast is not me. Having lustrate go on CD/ aether use but not heal anything is not me. Having deathflare start the animation but not go off is not me. Spinting before a melee LB is used, then get hit by it while behind a wall + 5 miles away from it, is not me.

Not even going to touch this rage. Your not listening, just creating situations with no evidence of how this change is that drastic.

[say0]

He's right though, I play from EU with a 100/100 line and all those things happen ALL THE TIME even with a VPN. Don't even get me started on how cancerous playing brd and nin are and its only going to get worse.